A Weekend at a Psychic Workshop

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A seance from around 1920

A seance from around 1920.

Continuing with my theme of different psychic and spiritual activities I’ve tried, back in 1988 I went to a two day workshop at the Swansea Psychic Centre in Wales, UK, to explore psychic phenomena. It was mostly attended by old ladies. They had a nice facility with lots of rooms for different talks and activities and it was well presented and organised.

Amongst the first of the activities, was one where we had to sit next to a person and describe each others life. The first person (an old lady) and I had nothing to describe about each other – we were blank. The instructor said when you have something in common or an affinity with someone it’s easier to get a psychic reading with them. So I tried again with another person (another old lady), and this time it worked, and I managed to accurately describe many important things in her life; finally there was a hint of psychic abilities after a drought of so many years.

In the next day’s activities, each person anonymously put an item of theirs (in my case my watch) into a basket. They were collected and taken to another room where one of the psychics at the centre would pick up each item and ‘read’ about the person from it. She emerged later and went through the items one by one, describing what she had sensed of the person when she held the item, and then she would ask the audience who the item belonged to. People were surprised by this woman’s accuracy and I waited for her to describe what she felt from my watch. She got to the last item in the basket, but mine wasn’t there and she didn’t say anything about it. I wondered what had happened and where my watch had gone.

A_Psychic_Message_'Tyne & Wear Archives & Museums' 2478315At the end of the event she went and picked something up and approached me and handed me my watch. She explained that she didn’t include it and didn’t want to say anything to the audience about it because when she picked it up she felt something she had never felt before and dropped it. I thought she must have got something wrong and I didn’t think about it much.

The final event was a channelling done by two people. It was explained how a Chinese man regularly manifested through the medium or mediums here and that he was, from what I remember, said to be an advanced spiritual Master. Two ladies were going to channel him and get messages from him.

Well that sounded interesting. I had been to a clairvoyant session before when I was in university, and I thought that was just made up, but when the lights went out, I felt this was different, like something was about to happen.

c1918. Hester Dowden the medium.

c1918. Hester Dowden the medium, reminds me of some of the ladies at the workshop.

The two ladies sat and closed their eyes; I could sense a change in the atmosphere. A presence appeared that wasn’t there before, but it had a ghostly feeling about it though, not unlike some of the milder entities I had encountered in my childhood. The two ladies began to contort and twitch. I checked them and their movements appeared to be synchronised; they were twitching in an identical way, with the same movements, that couldn’t happen as their eyes were closed. I was convinced it could only be due to supernatural phenomena, as the movements were just too synchronised to be rehearsed, right down to the smallest twitch.

In a moment I could ‘see’ a sinister presence go into them. I could perceive the darkness and vibration it brought, not just to the channellers, but into the room itself. As it settled they began to talk to the audience. They were speaking about spiritual kinds of things and the audience was well receiving of the dialogue. But I could see what was influencing them, and so I put a question to the person/entity which I suspected they wouldn’t be able to answer. They couldn’t, and so she or the entity replied “you are an old soul close to the awakening.” I felt this was using flattery as a way to stop my line of questioning by elevating my pride. I could have pressed a few more questions, but I didn’t want to disrupt the meeting for other people, so I just said thank you, and the channelling continued. I observed the entity until it left.

At the end of the session the weekend workshop concluded. I thought it was well done, and I could see the people involved at the Psychic Centre had genuine psychic abilities, but that wasn’t going to get me where I felt I needed to be, and so I had to continue my search for spiritual knowledge elsewhere.

I had read an account of channelled information back in 1978, when I used to take a channelled book to school with me to study. It was called The Boy and the Brothers by Maud MacCarthy, but there was something about it that didn’t feel right. Many years later I would discover along my own path how a Spiritual Master actually uses a physical body. Each person has their own higher consciousness, their divine spirit or Master, and it is this which manifests in them when they have reached a certain spiritual level of preparation.

It has often surprised me how people can trust something they can’t see to enter into their body. Of course it’s going to say nice things, as deceit is one of the biggest weapons darkness uses. To defend something you can’t see is just to defend a belief.

Mark Pritchard

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  1. Thank you Mark for sharing your very interested experience.

    Thanks everyone for sharing your insights and experiences on this. It helped me to see this issue from different points of views and also touched me deeply at some points, making me pay attention to particular obstacles of mine.

    Channeling is something I never liked from a child and I can say that I was a little bit afraid of it also. I never saw it as something spiritual but negative and also believed it would influence me.
    I didn’t agree trying to find answers to my problems this way and mostly to the idea of getting involved in other people’s lives and decisions or trying to direct them and doing this as a job. I also have heard stories where people have harmed other people very badly using a medium.

    Once I met a woman, who told me she was a medium, in a hospital where I was working many years ago, before having any information about these teachings. In some way we came close to each other and she told me then a lot about her life and job. Through her stories, it seemed that she was using her abilities to help people, as for example to see if someone was telling the truth or what he really wanted from another person. Even though I saw she was using challenging to help and I felt she was a nice and kind person, in me, I didn’t really agree with what she was doing, because I wouldn’t want anyone to do something like that to me, it was like she would not be respecting my privacy and freedom. That’s why I felt it was a wrong way to help, if this was really help.
    Now it’s completely clear to me that channeling serves the darkness

    Thank you very much Mark once again for sharing your very interested and valuable experience, highlighting how much careful we have to be in our inner research and how important it is to investigate and try to reach spirituality and the truth through our own personal experiences.

  2. Thanks for sharing this account again, Mark. Contact with “the other world” always fascinated me before, perhaps because it was one of the few things I had experienced and knew of that showed that there is something else out there — other forces, other beings — and that magic (good or bad) was real. Growing up I was always drawn to such things, which led me to be involved in various activities, such as creating play “seances” with my friends as a child, and later attending ouiji board sessions, invoking the spirits of the dead, and seeing a psychic.

    The psychic I went to was an extremely disappointing experience despite going into the reading really wanting something supernatural to occur (I think that’s really what I was looking for more than the answers to questions that most people seek when they see a psychic). The flattery and vague answers you and others described was definitely there, but also I think my disappointment was that people like that ruin it for everyone else — my belief in psychic phenomenon was wavering for a bit after that, until I had other experiences to validate this point and gained my own experience of some psychic abilities and occurances.

    With the ouiji board my experience was actually quite negative and what started out as a silly entertainment actually became a pattern of “channeling” negative entities and deceased people’s egos. After a certain point the sessions became a bit invasive and the entity that kept coming through seemed to have become attracted to my presence, as no matter who I was doing the session with it kept coming back. It became more and more physical too, with the atmosphere in the room changing frequently, and the being contacted had a very invasive and violent presence. It was actually quite a terrifying thing to face — to realize that for some stupid reason I decided to establish contact with something that I did not know, could not see (yet), and that over time revealed itself to be so sinister. I had to work hard to break that contact, throw away the ouiji board, and not partake in such activities again. The experience showed me a lot through about the unknown nature of channeling and also of the waste of time that it is all things considered.

  3. Hi Mark,

    Thank you for sharing about your experience. Psychic abilities have always been fascinating, I think for most people, it is equal to having super-powers like abilities. And many movies, books have been written using psychic phenomenon as something to be afraid of. And personally, if it was not because I learned about spirituality through practices on OBEs, and self-knowledge, I would have kept a fear of these psychic abilities that are latent or developed within anyone.

    I remember as a yound adult one time attending a party, and the host was really interested in tarot, in divination, and had a ouiji board. It was something that always interested me as well. So when he said, let’s try it, I was a bit afraid, but thought, well here goes my chance to see what happens and what could possibly go wrong? The idea was to call/invite a spirit, any spirit and see if it could answer our questions. But we settled on calling the spirit of the deceased person of the jacket I was wearing (I had bought it from a second hand shop, and it looked like it was quite old, whether or not that person was dead is a mystery and most likely was not!). So we set up the room with a candle and a table, and started concentrating (though I remember having no idea on what I was supposed to concentrate..!). The room became very, very cold, I remember feeling more and more cold and that something was happening, and asking the others, why is it getting so cold? I am becoming very cold, what is going on? Then someone that was pretty much against the whole thing, just turned on the light and said ok, that’s enough. And we stopped. Some of the others just laughed it off, but I thought, this was very strange, and I did not like not knowing what was going on, especially the sudden change in temperature. My friend and I left quite soon afterward. It was not much, but still left an impact on me, feeling like there was definitely something that happened.

    Other experiences with channeling came from hearing stories from people; one of them was from a member of my family who attended a psychic event, and came back from it afraid because it worked, and she stated, I never want to hear about this ever again, and is a strong atheist. Another time, it came from another family member who tried to initiate such contacts in our home (which was already haunted), and other times from closed friends who contacted supposedly ‘dead family members’ with a psychic. In one of the events, discord and and intent to spread lies and hate within that family happened after the ‘channeled being’ just made a statement to bring about worry and gossip about 2 people present: a father & son. This had quite an impact as the son was quite young and impressionable, and obviously no one questioned the statement even though it had no justification.. They were simply told that they were evil people, and that the being would not speak any longer in front of them, and so the other family members requested they leave the room, so that they could continue to hear what the being had to say.

    It is interesting that indeed, there is no more questioning done by the people practicing it, accepting to be ‘invaded’ and ‘taken over’ by unknown entities.

    In my experience, I wanted to learn, and had absolutely no idea what I was getting into, and I think this may be a common problem. There is so much disinformation and misunderstanding or ideas made up about the spiritual and various psychic abilities.

    But psychic abilities are not to be afraid of, that I understand now, but they can be used for good or evil. And having such abilities does not mean it is spiritual either.

    And there is also a passivity that we each carry within, to accept things that sounds good or agrees with our beliefs. I remember reading something about the fact that people will question something they don’t like to hear/read/know, but tend not to question something they agree with or that comes from authority. And reading from your story and people’s comments, it seems to be a recurring theme to use ‘pride’ as a way to entice people and deceive them.

    If only the tools to verify the good and evil that exists beyond our eyes were more common to most people, then it seems that a lot of misconceptions and unfortunate repercussions could be avoided.

    Thank you again for sharing this with us, because it helps to understand what you went through in your search for spirituality.

    • Thank you for sharing your experiences Geraldine. I remember you talking about your haunted house and thought that must have been quite interesting. :-) And as I was reading your post, I remembered that I actually did take part in a Quija board session too, when I was about 16 or so.

      A girl that I knew was organizing it, and some people told me that they had done it with her before, and that the “cup moved” (in response to certain questions). I was curious to see that, even though I didn’t really believe in it, and so decided to attend. During the whole session though, the girl was saying something like “there is a problem as someone here is skeptical”. I guess I was the skeptical one, and even though the cup moved a bit after a certain question, it still seemed to me more like maybe her strong psychic power was moving it rather than an outside influence. In any case, the whole session lasted too long without anything too significant happening, so I decided to leave. People there asked me if i am not afraid to go home on my own after all that, but I was not, as the whole event just seemed a bit ridiculous to me. I think my fear is bigger now than it was back then. :-O

    • Thanks for sharing your stories Geraldine. I had a lot less exposure to this kind of thing, but I had the same kind of interest that you seem to have had. I did try a ouiji board a few times with friends as a teenager, but they always started to accuse each other of moving it. One time I did it with just one friend and she swore she didn’t move it and I didn’t, but like your story, we stopped right away after it started working. Along with the intrigue, I remember having a lot of fear of doing this type of thing because I think deep down I knew it was real and I didn’t actually want to invite negative entities into the home.

  4. How is the picture of the indecipherable writing and the ‘1861’ date related? Just curious.

    Great story! I remember hearing you talk about this one time in more detail. Sounds like you got a very telling experience into some subtle nuances between darkness and psychic abilities.

    Thanks!

    • :-) I was also wondering about the indecipherable picture.

    • Hi Michael,

      If you hover on the photo, the source of the image appears: “Tyne and Wear Archives and Museum” comes about, and the image originates from what seems like to have been a type of testing of psychic abilities of photographic impressing: https://www.flickr.com/photos/twm_news/14572478315/

      I’ve heard before of such psychic skill where someone was able to produce images printed on photography, and there was this famous psychic who used to do that, but they could not prove how he was doing it. A lot of speculation went on, but he could not be debunked… I was actually funnily enough reading about it about a week ago, but can’t remember the name of that particular person..

      It’s really amazing and humbling (I mean so much we don’t realize or know about) really to see what some of these psychic abilities can do, but then I don’t see the point of that either. Perhaps some people got good and then had seances where people would pay to see this; making money out of something that belongs to the spiritual and not made to show off.. Some were total fraud, using people’s naivete, or they were trying to show people that we could access the spirit world before Death? It’s hard to know.

      • Thank you detective Geraldine! That’s awesome what you have found from that little link. Now it shows some laziness on our side, does it not? I guess I was not interested in that little picture enough to really dig deeper into its link and everything. But fortunately, we have you. :-)
        Regarding the person you spoke about, did you mean the Kirlian photography? Kirlian photographed auras and other non-physical phenomena: http://www.lightstalking.com/what-is-kirlian-photography-the-science-and-the-myth-revealed/

        • Oh Lucia, you are too funny :D – glad I could help.

          That’s a really cool link, and the images made using the Kirlian photography are really quite beautiful! But no, it’s not what I was referring to. It was a proper psychic that was able to create impressions on pictures as they were taken.. Also dating back in the early-mid 20th century, if I remember correctly. And they did different testing on him, and could not debunk him..

          I’ll try to look it up again when I have a chance but I just totally stumbled upon it, and I did not save the link :(

  5. Thank you Mark for sharing this story.

    It reminded me of one of my early experiences, when accidentally, and carelessly, I made a telepathic connection in the astral with something sinister that was far away. Upon making that connection I instantly woke up in my bed, as it was unpleasant. Unfortunately, shortly after waking up, I felt a powerful unwelcome presence in my bedroom and something started trying to get into my mind. It is hard to explain how it felt, but it was a very invasive and terrifying feeling. Intuitively I “knew” that in order to block this entity, I needed to remain focused and as much aware as possible. Without going into much detail, the hole event seemed to last forever but eventually the air cleared and I was left alone, exhausted. It was a valuable lesson that taught me that ignorance can lead to making horrible mistakes.

  6. Thanks for sharing this very interesting story Mark. When I was in the very early days of this work I went to a channelling session for the last time. I appeared to be the only for whom it was not a pleasant experience. The entity that, almost violently, entered the young woman (given her girations and shuddering) was saying all the right loving, spiritual words, but his whole manner was incredibly arrogant and not at all in keeping with a spiritual Being. Nonetheless, the people in the audience totally revered this woman and the entity she channelled. Sadly, she was actually a lovely young lady, and was totally unaware that perhaps what she channelled was not so spiritual. The session took a lot out of her and she appeared totally drained and exhausted after the 1 hour session.

  7. Thank you Mark for sharing about one other experience of this kind.

    It is interesting for me to read about your search to find something really right and esoteric, beyond of good intentions and traps as the deceit of darkness and the egos (pride etc).

  8. Thanks for sharing your experience Mark. Its funny for me because years ago I also found myself at a channeling session in an audience. The entity was apparently a native american chief called ‘white cloud’. It talked of vague spiritual sounding topics which lead nowhere. I too asked a question to the entity to which the person would not have a clue about. The entity gave a broad response and basically couldn’t answer the question. It also used flattery to satisfy pride. Many similarities to your own experience. Looking back I can see how the whole situation didn’t feel right for me.

  9. Thanks for sharing your experience about the weekend back in 1988 Mark. It’s interesting that you mentioned you could feel the darkness and vibration of the entity. I can remember a lecture we gave in the UK some time ago. This evening a sudden change happened in rooms and because our regular room was booked we were shown a different room. It was fine when we setup the room but once the public came there was a negative vibe, something which normally would not be there. Also the feedback people gave was different and more inclined to be negative or provocative to others. This evening stood out and halfway through the session someone opened the door and asked if we were part of the weekly channelling group. Then we realised why this room brought out these negative responses in people as the energy of such activities must build up over time. The week after we were back in our regular room and things went as usual.

  10. Very interesting experience Mark. Thanks for sharing.

    It must have been useful in contributing to your search for the Path. I mean in the sense that it was another proof that there is more to life than the eyes can see. Plus giving you an insight on how darkness deceives which could be a push to choose light and truth.

    I guess many people just find comfort in just proving and communicating with the supernatural and get stuck whereas you had the inner maturity to look for more which is admirable in itself.

    • yes its amazing to be in an event like that and see the good from the bad. I don’t think many people can do that these days, it seems the light and consciousness is drowned too much by our heavier states or we are content to be deceived by whatever is thrown at us and suits our own ideas. Its rare to have our own true individuality and search for the truth so its inspiring to see how this propelled your own spiritual search further..

  11. Thanks for sharing Mark. Really interesting to hear about your experiences.

    I attended someone who did readings before, and the way it went was that she would sort of tap in to some other place and you’d ask questions to her while she was in this state and then you could talk about the answers you got after.

    I can relate to the flattery thing you mentioned, since the opening comment made by the woman when she connected with whatever she connected with was something that really fed this image I held of myself at the time, so it was easy to feel sort of safe and take the rest of the answers more readily. She could have had genuine abilities as she did validate some things that I had felt to be true but overall I left feeling unsatisfied (and $40 poorer).

    Looking back on that experience I see the importance of being careful on what I let influence my decision making. It seems like a lot of people see psychics/channellers in really dire times, to help them figure out really big aspects about their life (work, family, love, losing a loved one etc) , and I can see that influencing people in a pretty negative way, especially if there is something more sinister behind it.

  12. Patricia A. says:

    Part of me was curious to know about psychics and their abilities to fortell an individual’s future but at the same time I always felt that if a person was told about it from another source rather than from their own, then they probably weren’t meant to get that information in the first place or worse, be totally mislead by it, especially if it’s not true. For that reason I stayed away from them altogether and after reading this story, I’m glad I did.

  13. “…. I could see the people involved at the Psychic Centre had genuine psychic abilities, but that wasn’t going to get me where I felt I needed to be, and so I had to continue my search for spiritual knowledge elsewhere. “

    I think it’s great you had this understanding and continued your search, I hope other people will be able to have such discernment in their own searches.

    The general consensus in society might be that nothing exists beyond what is ‘scientifically’ proven. So a person who feels that there is more and finds out about psychic things like channeling might think; hey this is it!
    Similarly I was talking to a friend a few days ago about martial arts and how some martial arts ‘Masters’ might say to have reached some form of spiritual enlightenment. Having trained their bodies to do things that seem almost supernatural and apparently use ‘ki’ or ‘chi’ to push people over without even touching them etc. And some look the part of wise old sage quite well. :)

    A person could spend many years of their life on this, or other similar things such as yoga, and reach certain goals with it but may be left empty-handed in a spiritual sense at the end of it.

    • I agree Karim, it took me many many years of searching through all that ‘junk’ before walking into a Centre…
      I think “Discernment” is the proper term (I have been meditating on this for a while, myself). Everyone needs it, but everyone thinks they already have it.

      So, thanks Mark (and all involved, of course), for the Gnostic Movement, when it existed. It is a shame, I feel, that with the prevalence of the “want-it-now” society and all the misleading information out there for genuine seekers, it is harder than ever to let people find these teachings.

  14. Thank you Mark. I’ve never been to a medium myself; but it sounds rather creepy to let something enter you and control you like that. I watched a movie based on a true story, where a woman, the main character, spoke with an entity manifesting through a medium. After it was over, the medium had no idea what had been said. It seemed like he just blacked out until it was over.

  15. ConsciousCreation says:

    The pure light you shine (given your spiritual path at that time) was superimposed into the watch. Based on where she was with her connection to Divine (if she had one at all, because many don’t) , the light she actually felt would trigger her own egos causing her to turn away from reading the watch for you. That’s what I know to be true, based on my experiences, and was trying to say. Its my belief we are a reflection of each other and the more we do this work the more we will draw like minded people to us to help us continue growing on our path. So my interpretation of it would be that she had no words for what she felt except for extreme love or light and therefore she did not have words to interpret it, then it probably triggered emotions within her that were not healed. :) Pure light is warm, loving, and kind.. and when that is felt, most don’t know how to psychologically process it it and move away from it, just as we experience with the egos in the astral. Good Luck Friends! I wish you all the best. <3 Thank you for letting me share.

  16. ConsciousCreation says:

    Thank you so much for sharing this. I read this once before and it put me on a mission to understand. I can tell you that our own personal egos will manifest as a reflection when light is present. (Such as disregarding the watch ~ that actually makes me very sad that she did that.) For instance, when I felt the energy of the website when we had the forums I was intimidated, not because of Mark or Angela but it felt very male dominated, I had psychological issues with men that needed healing at that time, so I was inclined to want to move away from it.But I chose to preserver, work through my egos, and I obtained alot of valuable information. What I discovered however is those differences in energetic patterns are a representation of our own ego. So yes, I agree people should not channel unless they fully understand what they are doing (which most don’t do this works so they don’t understand it) I would love to have asked her what exactly it was she felt and probe just in a loving context but that’s neither hear nor there, I suppose. When we are working with the egos in conjunction to the spiritual faculties, for me it seems to have taken on an entirely new meaning. In the astral we can see a demon and take steps to vanquish it. Mark said in another one of his writings once before, “You have to search through all of it, to find what is true.” That is what I am working with now. Also when we read energetic patterns, we can see the egos and be of service the best we can. What she did for those items I know to be called clairsentience “energetic feeling” which is our human imprint of things, if we can feel to the divine truth and tests we can help people move through whatever they are facing in life. Thats what I strive to do anyhow, give credit to Divine, and encourage people to keep seeking along there spiritual path. I am greatful for this and for you, Angela, and the work you do as always. <3

  17. Thanks for another glimpse into your early search for the spiritual Mark.

    Reading your story reminded me of the many dubious gatherings I attended when I was younger, the nice old ladies guaranteed to be there!
    I remember a healing course I began where the women also said they were working with the a Tibetan enlightened Master, amoung others. Everyone seemed so impressed and impressionable, including myself, but no matter how much I wanted it all to be real, I could feel something I just didn’t trust going on, and didn’t return.
    It’s a really important point you bring up about the reality of channeling, it’s seems to be something so cloaked by pride and reverance in spiritual circles, people rarely speak against it, so thank-you.

  18. Thank you for sharing your story Mark.

    I went to a medium once. He didn’t outright channel supernatural presences, but he presented himself as being able to hear and communicate with people’s dead relatives. He was telling me what my deceased grandmother was supposedly communicating to him, but it felt strange because she was using bad language (which she never would have done in life) and the energy just felt angry and pushy, nothing like my grandmother at all. He did seem to know private things about my current life situation, but in the end he didn’t really tell me anything useful, and the session left me feeling confused and sad. The medium himself felt distant, unsympathetic and judgemental, and I felt afraid of him.

    Maybe people are drawn to channeled messages and books because it seems quite easy, that such high beings would be telling you things directly, it seems like a direct connection to higher beings. Moreover as they are saying nice things that make you feel comfortable and hopeful. I just always felt it can’t be that easy…

    • ConsciousCreation says:

      I have seen that happen. I am so sorry to hear this. What I have discovered just as we find in the ancient teachings the heart of the individual doing the work will always guide the way the readings goes. His reading came across that way because that is what he carried in his heart. If you do not feel “drawn” to the person then it is because you are not the same in your heart. If that makes any sense. Like spiritual energetic patterns will draw the same type of seekers, in my opinion. Always follow your intuition and do not be afraid to get up and leave. I have also found that there are just as dark egos manifest in astral they can be used and manifest mentally, for instance, I had a lady telepathically saying, “You want this reading, I need the money,” and it created a sort of hook in my intellectual center. Everything in me said no, my friend was standing there saying, “You don ‘t need this.” I was young, dumb, and curious about energy work and psychic readings. In my heart, I just wanted to be of service to God and I wanted someone to tell me what to do with my life. I went through with it against everything I felt right in my heart. It was the worst experience of my life. She looked at my finger saw my calous and indent and said, “You love to write!” and acted as if it was divine intervention. I keep thinking and saying give me more than this! She could not. She was kind, had a loving presence, but for some reason I needed more validation than that. Now when I reflect I see even that had its place in my growth. You will find it. It is all relevant. Hugs

  19. Thanks for sharing Mark, it’s been really interesting to read about your experiences and insights into this.

  20. Thanks for sharing Mark

  21. Thanks for the article. It’s a very interesting topic especially since psychic/supernatural phenomena is so popular with the masses today.

  22. Thank you for posting this article. I can relate to a search for some kind of psychic/supernatural phenomena. I think many people want this to exist, but unfortunately many end up being satisfied with just observing, and knowing of its existance.

    I have been reflecting recently on how to be able to go further/deeper into this, and so far I see how quickly my focus on this pursuit is lost throughout the day – usually in fascinations on things of little importance, or different emotions. A morning focus really helps me to remember what I want, but the focus in the day has so far evaded me.

    Thank you again for this article, and for the chance to reflect on a spiritual pursuit.

  23. Thanks for sharing this. Your description took me right into the story. It’s as if I could see it happening. The most interesting part for me was how she kept your watch aside and didn’t share your reading with the group. I also feel that it is very important what you say about channelling. I have had many people try to convince me to attend meetings with channelling going on and to read channelled books. They are so convinced that it is a good and spiritual thing to do. I met a man in the grocery store a few months ago that was insisting that I attend a channelled meeting. When I gave my viewpoint and my reason for not attending, it was as if he was just waiting for me to stop talking so he could reassure me that it was safe. You are right to say that deception is one of the main tools of darkness. It is so sad that people just want to hear that they are good, the world is getting better, we are all awakening etc. Words that sound so nice easily take people down the wrong path where they don’t have to face reality. Such words are clearly lies if one is able to look objectively at themselves and the world. Unfortunately, our own pride makes us so susceptible to these negative entities with their messages that all is well, when clearly all is not well.

    • I wonder what would happen if you had agreed to go on the condition that they sing Bellilin with you first.

      • I bet that guy would have been happy to sing the Bellilin but I still had no interest in going. I personally wouldn’t want to put myself into that environment. Would you?

        • I guess I don’t really have an answer to that question as it would depend on what felt right in the situation. Once, after automatically declining an invitation to a bible study, I was taught by the spiritual to not make rules about where to go especially when invited. Nevertheless, I’m not saying you did anything wrong, just wondering how a meeting like that would work if everyone sang Bellilin right before trying to channel.

          • I agree that everything is situation based. For example, one day I was walking down a street in San Francisco that was lined with drug addicts. One of them approached me and asked me for money. Normally, I wouldn’t have given him any but in that moment I had a mental flash of him mugging an old lady and stealing her purse… I saw that I could prevent this robbery so I gave him the money he was asking for.

            I guess I don’t have the same curiosity as you do about the Bellilin and the channeling. I would rather just steer clear of an event that is clearly associated with dark forces.

            Are you thinking that the entity would not be able to enter the person channeling as a result of the Bellilin? I guess I find that a bit intriguing, but certainly not enough to try it. When I had just learned about awareness, I decided to walk into a bad neighborhood and practice being aware with the intent to help someone. I feel like going to a channelling event and singing the Bellilin would be a similarly foolish thing to do unless I was Divinely guided to do so.

          • Very interesting about the drug addict. Yeah I would agree that it’s best not to play with fire as a general guideline unless directly inspired by spiritual reason as in your case with giving the addict money. My thought about the channeling after Bellilin would be that it would not work, unless the channeling were actually the person’s egos themselves which I would suspect is often the case.

      • ConsciousCreation says:

        A lot of beautiful things can happen when belalin is included, the pork is removed from the diet, and we work to actually be aware. I try to stay as aware every moment as I possibly can. I don’t channel. Channeling, allows a being to take over a small piece of your mind, just as the egos present, in any given moment. It feels to me like a piece of my consciousness is being “used” because I become them in mind body movement and in a weird sense spirit. I actually drew boundaries as advised by a spiritual being and invite them to sit next to me during a reading and I will repeat word for word what is stated. :) There is a massive level of respect, I have a deep love for Divine and a willingness only to help for the greatest good. I also have an agave in my room, I do the work with that and I wear a pentacle around my neck. I can tell you its taken my astral projection practices to new heights. Thank you for asking. Those are just my experiences.

        • I like the idea of inviting a Being to be next to you. I have done that actually many times when wanting to express something or ask questions to a Being. I invoke and invite them into my room to sit with me and I talk a bit then “listen” (meditate). I also like to do this on walks sometimes , particularly inviting Jeshua to walk with me if He would.

  24. That is a very interesting experience Mark. Amazing how you were able to sense the negative presence and have an understanding that this is really not the way to go when trying to seek further knowledge.
    I can certainly see the appeal of such places and sessions – there are so many people that are longing for a connection was something beyond this physical world and they honestly believe that they are being put into contact with departed loved ones by people purporting to have the ability to ‘connect’ with those beyond the grave.
    In the past I visited one or two pyschics that read Tarot cards – I always got the sensation that they were actually just picking up on my own vibe and telling me what I myself was wanting to hear. Nothing of real value was actually given and it felt like a waste of my time and money and it also felt like I had betrayed myself in a way. Not sure if this makes sense :)

    Anyway, thanks so much for sharing these amazing experiences which really highlight your journey and path to finding true knowledge.

  25. Enjoyed your story, thanks Mark. Looking forward to more.

  26. Thanks Mark for the article things to defiantly look out for and stay away from, I wonder what that lady had seen with the watch?

  27. Thanks for carrying on with these stories Mark. Always interesting to hear your experiences and reflections on these types of activities and events.

  28. This sounds like a really valuable experience since you were able to see what was operating on those women and the effect it had on the room.

    I’ve never seen channeling being done like that, but I did go to see a ‘psychic’ once, after a coworker recommend someone to me. I don’t think this person was actually psychic, and at the end of the reading she warned me of some kind of dark forces/ dark matters coming my way. Your story reminded me of this because she also used flattery to try to persuade me to come back and see her, but it felt deceptive and like any of the dark matters she was telling me about would be stemming from her own activities. It cured me of my curiosity for getting psychic readings from other people anyways.

    Thanks for sharing.

  29. I tried a certain form of channeling only once when I did a Tarot reading for my friend. I thought it would be more objective to do it that way, but then there was a weird feel of losing “who I am”, I didn’t want to lose “myself” even temporary and resisted. It felt scary and seemed to affect my reading. I never felt like doing it again…

    Great to have you sharing with us your insights Mark, very interesting :)

    • Sounds quite scary Vadim. There definitely seems to be something weird going on when people let various entities enter their bodies, start twitching, speaking weird voices and such. I never had a good feeling about it and it makes sense that there must be more natural way of obtaining the higher type of information. Sincere prayer combined with intensive concentration has always worked best for me in my current state. I can only imagine that a person who has eliminated a lot of subjective tendencies and keeps purifying himself internally (eliminating anger, greed, and such) should naturally be able to acquire more and more objective information, without the need of any entity entering their bodies.

  30. I found the response that entity gave when you asked a question they couldn’t answer to be quite telling. Using flattery to inflate pride and deceive is a trap well worth looking out for.

    Thanks for sharing.

  31. There was a ‘spiritualism’ centre near a place I used to work that I had to walk past and I often wondered the kind of stuff that they did in there. From the outside it gave the feeling that it would be somewhat similar to what you described, well meaning people but for whom psychic stuff was a past time, social club or a form of spiritual entertainment of some sorts that was more passive than active.

    It must have been a strange experience seeing the entity going into and talking through those people!

  32. Thank you for sharing these interesting experiences with us. I also think there are many people with psychic abilities that can be quite accurate. I remember there was one person back at University where I studied, who used to do readings for people there. Some of my friends had their readings done and they said he knew so many things about them and also told them about some future events. I never went there, as I was a bit afraid what he might say and also didn’t want to be influenced by it on a subconscious level.

    I also always felt like the faculties and such are not the way I want to go forward. I always searched for an objective sort of knowledge, something universal and available to everyone that would explain what’s going on on a deeper level. I also felt it must have something to do with love (especially love between a man and woman), otherwise it felt somewhat barren and without life to me.

    Thank you again for everything you are providing here.

  33. This article gives a really good sense of the atmosphere of that event and what it was like. It is quite mind-boggling that people would allow an unfamiliar entity to use their body that way.

    Another element of this post that hit a chord with me was the medium/entity using flattery to try to pacify you (seemingly). It seems like a lot of “personal development” books and teachers use a similar approach, feeding people things they want to hear about awakening, evolution, and enlightenment that feed people’s good feelings but which are quite misleading if you scratch beneath the surface.

    • I totally agree about flattery Justin. It seems to work well in many areas, not just spirituality, when somebody wants to have us where they want. Still, it looks like they were quite right in Mark’s case. :-)

    • I too have heard the “You’re an old soul,” line so many times that I started to use that as a litmus test to show they had no idea what they were talking about. :D

      Thanks for sharing: I like these stories, as it shows how much ‘stuff’ is out there that is unhelpful.