The Biography site is now up to date

//The Biography site is now up to date

A new page has been added to the biography site, bringing it up to date. The page is called In Solitude and it covers the time from 2013 until 2016. Here’s an excerpt:

belsebuub-pic-2014-2-1In 2015 the plagiarism of Belsebuub’s free eBooks had become too much work for his small publisher to continue chasing up and so they were withdrawn and his publisher shifted to preparing his books for print instead. In 2016 The Astral Codex, The Awakening of Perception, and The Path of the Spiritual Sun were released as printed Books and sold at cost price, as Mark wanted to continue to provide his work without charging money for it. Mark, nor his wife Angela, receive any royalties from the sale of their printed books, as Mark says that he wants them to be provided as close to cost as reasonably possible.

Mark says that people have taken advantage of his following the spiritual principle of giving spiritual knowledge freely, and compares people who make money out of spiritual teaching to the merchants of the temple that Jesus cast out.

Read the rest of the page here

By | 2016-11-24T12:26:36+00:00 November 24th, 2016|news|186 Comments

About the Author:

Angela Pritchard is a researcher and practitioner of the ancient religion of the sun. Writing alongside her husband Mark Pritchard (Belsebuub), she is co-author of two books The Path of the Spiritual Sun and Return to Source. Both write on the website www.belsebuub.com where Mark provides the esoteric knowledge found in her blogs and articles, which she combines with research into the latest discoveries in science, cosmology, sacred sites, and ancient texts.

186 Comments

  1. Karim May 20, 2017 at 11:39 pm - Reply

    Today I was reading through some of my older dream diaries, 2013 in this case, and came across some guidance and information from dream scenarios which I had forgotten about. I was surprised because it perfectly matched some things mentioned in the biography blog: ‘Teaching in the Gnostic Movement Part 2.’ Although it was shown to me was a few years later it was still some guidance that was relevant, and useful for me at the time. Reading about this now which confirms that guidance back then makes the whole of ‘flow of teaching’, here and over there, seem very connected.

  2. Lucia February 7, 2017 at 4:47 pm - Reply

    Thank you very much Angela for publishing this detailed narrative of Mark’s spiritual journey in its later stages. Even though so out of the reach for an ordinary person, or even a person trying to awaken, it still gives a good orientation and picture about the principles being applied on the spiritual path, and how they repeat over and over on ever higher octaves.

    I was especially touched by the described heaviness of the egos Mark had to deal with when being faced with the “dark side of the moon” of his psychology. I noticed its a common mistake that people think if somebody is advanced spiritually, he has to be all smiley and in an ‘above the world’ kind of mood all the time. But it makes a perfect sense to me that somebody working on himself spiritually would be faced with these heavy inner states in order to overcome them, and that during those times he would go through some very difficult circumstances and inner turmoils.

    Still, with all those trials, my personal impression is that Mark has done all that work so incredibly fast – just in one lifetime. It is hard to imagine such a focus and determination to be able to achieve it, and also how he was able to get the spiritual work right internally, to be able to self-observe so deeply and to get rid of the inner defects so effectively and rapidly.

    At last, I wanted to comment on the experience you mentioned you had out-of-body in that high-tech building with the demons being scared to death when meeting Mark. At the end of 2013, I had a somewhat similar experience out-of body when trying to meet Belsebuub in the astral plane. I also entered a high-tech building where a meeting or a sort of presentation was being prepared. Not knowing where I was, I asked the people there where could I find Belsebuub. After pronouncing his name the beings were literally thrown back to the wall. I was surprised what a power just saying his name had, and at the same time realised I was standing in front of the negative beings who attacked me some time afterwards.

    When reading your account here, it makes a perfect sense to me now how somebody at that stage of spiritual path would have that effect on the forces of darkness.

    • john perez February 9, 2017 at 8:51 am - Reply

      Thanks for sharing your experience Lucia, that’s very inspiring information about the power of Belsebuub in the internal worlds.

    • Olga February 11, 2017 at 8:25 am - Reply

      Wow Lucia, that’s incredible how similar your experience was. I wonder if it was those same beings that were still in shock from their encounter with Belsebuub.

      • Lucia February 11, 2017 at 6:11 pm - Reply

        Yes it also struck me how similar it was when I read Angela’s article, even though I don’t think it was necessarily the exactly the same place and time. Also wondering what’s up with all those hi-tech places, why they seem to like them. Or maybe its just a symbolic representation of the era we are living in.

    • Karim February 11, 2017 at 10:11 pm - Reply

      Thanks for sharing that Lucia. I find experiences over there can give us such a unique insight on how things are.

      Also to say thanks again for this biography, it’s really beyond amazing. Many different details of it have stayed with me and I remember them sometimes in my daily life as a sort of reference or guide.

      One of the things that stayed with me strongly from some time ago, although I’m not sure if it’s mentioned in the current biography, is a part where in the internal worlds Mark had to face representations of those who had done him wrong. Which would show what was inside him on a very deep level. And he mentioned it was an unshakable and powerful love.
      I found this so beautiful, moving and powerful. Such things are a great inspiration and hope, especially in difficult times.

  3. Seraphim December 26, 2016 at 9:09 pm - Reply

    It’s an amazing biography and also a real inspiration for me.

    Mark and Angela, thank you for sharing that.

    Mark, I am also very glad and happy for all that you succeeded

  4. Laura December 16, 2016 at 7:30 pm - Reply

    I’m joining this thread late (and it says a lot about me) but grateful to still have the learning available from these discussions. So much learning here. I’m awed and humbled to be able to associate in this company. As others have mentioned I learnt more about myself from what was discussed about TGM. And saw that it is all still there, the avoidance, fear, passivity etc. The pain and remorse of seeing what this passivity is not only doing to my life but what it destroyed in the world. Monumental task to change. But it is every day, every hour, moment we change, the moment we see, the moment that is manageable. I have to focus on what I can do and not what I can’t do. To do what I know I have to do every day, to do the right thing. To act every day. I can’t let my life and these spiritual treasures slip away and be destroyed in this passivity. I have to be in charge of myself.

    I am extremely sorry for not doing more to support you back then Belsebuub, for not having any love or care, despite all you tried to teach us to find our own knowledge and develop the love and light within us. Thank you for not abandoning us even though we pretty much abandoned you. Thank you for your powerful forgiveness, mercy and love, that we haven’t deserved. I hope I can find a way to become more worthy of all you have done for us and give it back to you.

    It is incredible, mind blowing to read what you have gone through and achieved. Thank you so much for making it public and continuing to inspire us by your life. May we be able to support you in your efforts to spread the ancient spirituality of the Sun in the world.

    • jenny December 17, 2016 at 6:20 am - Reply

      Hi Laura. I really like what you said about focusing on what we can do instead of on what we can’t. It seems a really common trap to have the worry of the things that can’t be done overshadow the ability to see just how many things can be done and are right in front of us… For me it’s definitely been a point of reflection in terms of how all those events unfolded. The “can’ts” can be almost like an excuse that the mind can latch onto so easily, making it ok not to act / do / take care of what needs to be looked after.

      • Laura December 17, 2016 at 3:51 pm - Reply

        Thanks for that Jenny. I’m beginning to understand just how harmful it is to stay locked in this anxiety about all the things I can’t do, which leads to feeling overwhelmed and helpless, which leads to depression, which then doesn’t allow me to do anything at all because I feel too down and ‘incapable’. Whereas if I did even the little thing I see needs to be done and I can do, that could lead to my capacity and ability growing and giving more insights about bigger things to do. And yes, even though the anxiety on the surface makes you feel like a victim, actually beneath it operates as an excuse not to even try. Thanks for helping me see that. It’s opposite to how the society works to not get emotional about the big things, but it’s vital to be able to act correctly, and preserve our sanity and common sense and perspective.

        By the way it was really helpful what was being discussed below about how the things that stopped us from acting against the attacks are still playing out in our every day lives right now in small ways – irresponsibility, passivity, self-deception… I feel the need to study this and yearn to be able to change and make a difference.

        • Karim December 17, 2016 at 10:36 pm - Reply

          Thanks Laura, I really like your honesty.

          In general I don’t feel very depressed. But in the past there have been two times, one in particular, where things went a certain way and I felt I had failed the goal I had been working on and putting a lot of myself in. This was almost completely devastating and I could see the reality of how something like that can be the spiritual end of someone. The thing was that, without me knowing, that resulting devastation and depression prevented me from doing what I could have, leading to a double setback. Dangerous stuff. I’m glad the divine is there to show mercy when we most dearly need it, without it … ?

          It makes me consider the calibre of the perilous edges Mark must’ve walked along…

          • Laura December 18, 2016 at 10:57 am

            Many people here on this website, you included Karim, have an amazing sincerity in their way of communication. I have been impressed and impacted by this and it has made a difference in how I communicate online and offline. Thank you for setting the example.

            It must be helpful not to have that depressive tendency, but I can see how the situation you mentioned would have been devastating even so.

            Somehow it wasn’t until last autumn equinox when I was reading about its spiritual meaning from the Path of the Spiritual Sun, that it dawned on me that it isn’t a given that once you start the path you will keep advancing and succeeding on it. Pretty obvious maybe but it had been a subconscious belief for me. I mean I was reading about how in this stage that the autumn equinox symbolizes you go to your inner abyss and have to claw your way back out from there… I was like wait, so you have temporarily lost your spiritual powers as part of that stage but you have to get out of there through your own efforts (with some Divine help but mainly it’s you doing the work I guess). And it seems to happen several times on the spiritual path. That there are even people in the world who have created all their spiritual bodies in past lives but are fallen and don’t know it (please correct me if I got any of the above wrong). So yes, it blew my mind as to what Mark has been going through so successfully and revolutionary. I can’t begin to imagine what and how. That’s why I said I’m humbled to be able to get involved on this website, connected to such an incredible person/Being.

          • Laura December 18, 2016 at 9:31 pm

            My husband just reminded me that where my realisation happened was the death and resurrection at spring equinox, and he’s right – where I was struck by the fact that an initiate has to work his way out to resurrect themselves and doesn’t simply automatically resurrect. Sorry for my confused brain.

        • Michael January 2, 2017 at 7:17 pm - Reply

          I agree Laura – it’s important to focus on the things we can do, rather than the things we can’t. It’s in our best interests to do that, as spiritual activity is our weapon against the negative inner states that wish to drag us into a pit, including anxiety and depression. Both states can be very debilitating and limit our opportunities greatly.

          Even though we may not wish to do spiritual practices or help others spiritually when we are in a state of depression, in my own experience, I’ve found that I benefitted from doing spiritual activities during low times, as depression can become like a vortex that wants to suck everything into oblivion, whereas by going against this pull, we can rescue ourselves from that horrible inner state, to the benefit of not only ourselves, but also the wider world.

  5. Karim December 8, 2016 at 1:46 pm - Reply

    I want to say: It would be beyond marvellous for this message to go forth in the world.
    And for Belsebuub to be given his position in society as a spiritual teacher. May it be!

  6. Nathan December 4, 2016 at 10:48 pm - Reply

    Thank you for the last update to the biography site. Despite the terrible circumstances described in it, I really felt a sort of ‘timeless joy’ for you Mark at having managed to complete the path. I actually had an out of body experience earlier in the year where I called for the being Belsebuub to help me with something. A figure made entirely of light entered the room who I knew was Belsebuub, whose light was tremendous and powerful. I feel like I understand more about that experience after reading the latest installment to the biography.

    I found what you write about becoming free of the abyss within really inspiring. I’ve been seeing the egos more lately as an expression of the nature of that place, and when I see just what I bring into the world through my actions and attitudes, it really is like being a ‘twisted creature’. To see that it’s actually possible to become free of all that completely, not just in theory but actually seeing someone complete the process, has been amazing. I’d really like to thank you for your efforts to clarify the path. I can’t really fathom what’s ahead for you now Mark, but I wish you the best with it.

    I’ve really appreciated everyone’s comments about the Gnostic Movement, it’s prompted a lot of reflection for me. My own view is that yes, the Movement did have a hierarchical structure, but that only influenced the level of agency a person might have had, not the ability for any of us to act at all (which others explained very well with different analogies below). Speaking for myself, this is where I feel my own real shortcomings lay. I fell into a lot of different types of fear – of making things worse, inflaming prior difficult circumstances with people or a loss of image amongst others. I certainly didn’t do enough, and in doing so ended up enabling the suffering Mark was going through to continue, however unintentionally.

    I agree with everyone else that the only way to ensure those same shortcomings don’t repeat is through inner change. There’s a part in ‘The Spiritual Meaning of the Spring Equinox” that i think sums it up very well:

    “Those in the world who are full of hate come to attack the Son because their vibration is of hatred and darkness, and they cannot stand the emanations of light and love, nor their deeds being exposed. Evil does it’s work in the cover of darkness. One by one, as they come out to attack the Son, their own inner evil is revealed. In what is about to unfold, those around the Son, even society and the world itself, will be defined.”

    I think the only way to influence our definition is through our work to change, and translating it into actions for the light. Hopefully through that we can undo some of the loss the world suffered through TGM closing by helping the light reach the world once again.

    • Angela Pritchard December 5, 2016 at 3:14 am - Reply

      Hi Nathan, His path is not completed fully as he still has the thirteenth aeon to do.

      • Martin December 5, 2016 at 7:36 am - Reply

        Thanks for clarifying Angela.

      • Paty December 5, 2016 at 9:20 pm - Reply

        Yes thanks Angela for that clarification.

      • Nathan December 5, 2016 at 10:48 pm - Reply

        Yes, thanks for explaining that.

  7. Jiri Altman December 4, 2016 at 9:38 am - Reply

    Dear Belsebuub and Angela,

    thank you for posting up this amazing story of someone who showed us that this path is not impossible, it seems to be though. The last part was amazing and gave us the glimpse about the whole process of awakening, together with the whole story. And even what will happen after, which is completely beyond my understanding.
    So I hope that we realize that now is our time to get awaken, and not to lose this great opportunity given to us.
    Thank you

  8. Fotis December 2, 2016 at 5:18 pm - Reply

    Nice to read once more thoughts and understandings people have from this period of the GM closure. Even the years have passed since then, it takes time to get a deeper understanding about our personal decisions and actions of that time.

    For me, the closure of TGM was a tragedy and especially because of the way it happened. But I think what is worst is when the same kind of attitudes, feelings, actions etc are repeating these days. That means that someone like this is learning through repetition and pain instead through inner understanding from the consciousness. And more can be lost apart from the school.

    Since Belsebuub is still with us doing what is doing for the humanity, I think it’s more urgent now people who want, to support his mission as much as possible. I can’t find other words to say that but again it’s up to the people’s understanding and the will to understand what is needed. Imagine how is to go on a war using farmer’s tools instead of really weapons.
    Belsebuub went through successfully, even with those severe circumstances and maybe he can make it again. But when we’ll have the chance to fight for the Light together with a living master again?

    • Frosted December 6, 2016 at 3:44 am - Reply

      Fotis,

      You write “For me, the closure of TGM was a tragedy ….. because of the way it happened.” You further discuss painful repetition and learning by pain. You also write Belsebuub is still with us.

      Question: Have you ever asked for Mark’s spiritual being Belsebuub on the astral for help? Have you actually seen Belsebuub? When you answer my two questions I will share my experience. I am not trying to be rude or test you.

      As I wrote in my Comments on the 29th November, 2016 Mark taught me from about September 1996 to early 1998.I also wrote when the student is ready the Master will appear. What I did not explain was that when Mark taught me I wrote detailed notes but did NOT really practice outside of class.

      Mid way through 2001 I moved away from My home od Sydney, Australia and moved to Wellington, New Zealand to get married.

      In 2002 I had no Mark but just his notes. I read, re-read them and decided to put them into practice. I did better without Mark being there.
      Why – my essence sought a spiritual happiness. The student was finally ready and the Master (my true internal Master did appear). I am lucky enough to have seen my true master. Whilst I could not see his face, he wore scarlet and gold and held a flaming sword. The fire around the sword was made out of a crystalline type substance. I always smile when I think about my true internal master. – Imagine what your egos would do if you completely saw your master’s face. The work would immediately stop and your ego’s would take over.

      Mark not being there for me in New Zealand was a case of sink or swim. I began to relax my body and mind carefully. I began to properly meditate. In the astral I saw temples with great Masters. I put into practice what I should have done in Sydney.

      Yes ….. having Mark around would be great and I miss him. Missing him is an ego. Take a leaf out of Mark’s biography – Mark had no Mark teaching him.Instead he had his internal master but more importantly, his focus, determination and self-discipline.

      Mark has written an article recently that I became aware of through my own experience. We can best serve humanity by liberating ourselves and then trying to assist humanity. One has to walk before they can run and no one learns to drive in formula one!

      I read somewhere that the better Zen masters never directly taught their students. The student would observe and try to hear every word the Master said to other people, which at times was difficult as these Zen masters often spoke very softly and whispered , with the poor student sitting many feet away. The best students became Zen masters by simply observing, being self-disciplined and focussed. The students who failed had so called Masters who taught them everything they knew. The failed because they assumed and never sharpened their focus, determination and self-discipline, Samael talks about this in his book the The Golden Blossom.

      • Fotis December 6, 2016 at 10:07 pm - Reply

        With all the respect Frosted

        Please don’t send me personal messages at this web-site. Even if you may have the best intentions I think that’s not the right place.
        All the best!

  9. Boyd Lagman December 1, 2016 at 10:50 am - Reply

    Dear Belsebuub,
    I wish to express my gratitude and to say that it was a privilege to have attended the Gnostic School at Bondi Junction and learn from your teachings.I still feel the excitement while driving to the center and the warm and welcoming atmosphere inside and am longing and hoping that another school can be started again.
    Thank you so much,
    Boyd

    • DavidP December 3, 2016 at 4:50 am - Reply

      Hi Boyd, nice to see your comment here, and to know how much you valued the centre and Belsebuub’s work and are still interested in the work, hopefully what you have wished for can be a reality.

    • Martin December 3, 2016 at 9:05 am - Reply

      Hello Boyd,

      Great to read your comment, cheers.

    • Michael December 3, 2016 at 10:15 am - Reply

      I can relate to what you’ve said here Boyd. I had the same feeling of anticipation when travelling to my nearest centre and my visits there were often the highlight of my week. I can also recall the same welcoming atmosphere, which always came as a breath of fresh air and a welcome relief from the hubbub of the city.

    • john perez December 3, 2016 at 10:11 pm - Reply

      Hi Boyd, I also share your nice memories of our great school. From the very first time that I discovered the Bondi centre, I also loved all the classes and the teachers were always very pleasant, inspiring, encouraging. I devoted any time I could to the studies and very quickly it became my passion and my way of life from there on.

      It’s very obvious to me that this centre had a very strong influence passed down from the days Belsebuub taught there.

      I miss those pleasant days that we all shared.

    • chris scott December 4, 2016 at 1:55 am - Reply

      Hi Boyd,

      Thanks for sharing your special memories of The Gnostic Movement. It’s sounds very inspiring and I would have loved to have been a student back then. I also share your hopes for another spiritual school with Belsebuub as our spiritual teacher.
      Hopefully many of us will take matters seriously and work harder to remove the darkness within which prevent a true brotherhood among us.
      As it stands, it’s seems obvious that for a new spiritual school to materialise, it would first require the truth about the old school and Belsebuub to be made clear, and there are the websites for that.
      Secondly, if we are truly working on our defects we will be able to preserve and protect it.
      Most importantly, we would need to stand strong by Belsebuub without any fear of those who may choose to harm the innocent.

    • Paty December 4, 2016 at 8:59 am - Reply

      Yes Boyd, I totally agree.
      It was a real privilege to be part of that centre. I always felt welcomed and supported there.
      It was a great shame to see it go.
      But we still have this community under the guidance of Belsebuub, so it really is up to us now.

    • Sue December 5, 2016 at 11:23 am - Reply

      Yes I think we all very much miss those days at the Bondi Centre. It was a very special time.

      We are still very, very fortunate nonetheless to have this site which provides the opportunity to read the awe-inspiring story of Mark’s journey and the heights he has achieved – even if, speaking for myself, we can’t really imagine the depths and heights he has experienced along the way – and to gain strength and inspiration to continue with our own journeys and connect with other like-minded people.

      • Paty December 5, 2016 at 9:36 pm - Reply

        Thank you Sue and John. The Bond centre was very special and I have very fond memories of our times there. I appreciate the friendships we still have, the magical environment that was created and also I treasure the time that Mark visited the centre. With his humility and intelligence and good humour he assisted us to makes changes and bring about some much needed refreshed energies which allowed new things to be created.
        I also recall now that we shared a meal and I dat next to Mark. There was no pretence about him just a gentleness and yet a deep internal strength that is hard to describe. I couldn’t quote put my finger on it but then I realised that this is what happens when a person starts to incarnate their being by cleaning and purifying their energies – what I could sense was years of his inner work which literally made him shine in a humble subtle way.

  10. Geraldine November 30, 2016 at 3:05 pm - Reply

    Dear Mark,

    Reading your biography over the last months has been so inspiring and helpful. The last few chapters have also been at times hard/sad to read, even just the title (Teaching independently and solitude) because of the many realizations of the effects and contributions of my shortcomings in supporting you and defending you during the attacks. To realize how bad things got to that you were left on your own, completely on your own was not something easy to realize or read.

    Like you explained so well and clearly (and thank you for this, as your words also helped me understand things better), the attacks had to happen, but they did not need to go on for so long, nor did TGM had to closed down, nor did you need to be left on your own.

    Saying sorry afterwards does not even come close to what needed to happen back then nor about how much was lost, how much you suffered.. Yet it is still the raw feeling of regret and repentance that is present within me, and the aftereffects of everything that was lost and which continues to affect things nowadays.

    I am very thankful for what Layla, Steve, Matthew, Sabah, David, Jenny, Dara, Justin and others have contributed here and many others have written in this thread to recognize the mistakes and shortcomings we all shared. It’s been as always very helpful.

    Yet, your story is also a story of glorious victory of the light over darkness, of the power of love over hatred and negativity. And it gave me so much hope and joy in my heart to read about your achievements – there is no words for it really, just a certain deep meaningful joy for you, your work and especially knowing you are finally out of darkness.

    Thank you so much for sharing your achievements with us, for continuing to provide your guidance and I wish for myself and everyone to be able to face up to our defects internally and externally so that we can walk the path you started many years ago and walk it ourselves to the best of our abilities. Thank you again, and sending you and Angela my best wishes

  11. chris scott November 30, 2016 at 10:06 am - Reply

    I would like to say thankyou to each and everyone of you who have shared your apologies, and most of all for setting the record straight about the past of The Gnostic Movement and the terrible injustice caused to Belsebuub and Angela. I can understand why there will always be serious reasons to be on guard in the future of the new Spiritual Sun religion.

    It’s been really helpful to read everyone’s mistakes and lack of understanding in defending Mark and Angela, and The Gnostic Movement from these attacks. Your shared insights could be very useful in the future when these egos will surely surface again in all of us.

    I wasn’t an active student when The Gnostic Movement was alive and running, but I’ve heard and read many great stories, hopefully the new Spiritual Sun religion will soon be available to help many wake up and be free.

    It seems that we all have an amazing opportunity to move forward by understanding and correcting ourselves. Hopefully words will materialise by real actions.

    • Michael December 2, 2016 at 11:15 am - Reply

      I agree Chris – it’s important to always be mindful of the need to defend the light, as although things appear to be smoother now, the same egos of complacency, laziness, fear, passing responsibility onto someone else etc. are often still lurking under the surface and will produce the same unfortunate set of results if a similar situation arises in the future.

  12. Paty November 30, 2016 at 9:31 am - Reply

    Just wanted to say like others have already that I am very grateful for everyone’s contributions to this topic.

    It is also true for me that each time this community here has the chance to revisited this issue of the closure of our esoteric school and the failings in our defense of Belsebuub, I learn a great deal.

    Thank you!

  13. Justin November 30, 2016 at 4:45 am - Reply

    It was really remarkable to read this chapter of your story Mark. Although the whole biography has been amazing, there is a quality in these recent chapters that has been deeply moving.

    I suppose it is because we are reading descriptions of spiritual mysteries that have been very seldom experienced, let alone put down in writing. They are glimpses into something so sacred and profound. I found it almost took my breath away at times – as though my sense of the scale and the enormity of the path kept expanding until it passed completely beyond my comprehension.

    It is incredible to consider what it must be like to be free within, at peace in the garden of your father. A flavour of it comes through in your writing, and it seems like an experience that makes everything else pale in comparison – a treasure worth selling everything else to gain. I feel both inspired and humbled by it (also a bit daunted, truth be told!) and also so happy for you, that you have gained this milestone after so much hardship.

    I wish I could put all the feelings I got into words in a better way, but then as others have mentioned, words can’t really do it justice.

    I am very grateful that you have done what you have to go through it all, Mark, and have helped us to gain a small understanding of what it has been like. It brings all my failings and weaknesses before my eyes as I compare my life with yours, and see how true you have been to your goal and to your heart’s longing all this time.

    I sincerely wish that I can find it within me to correct myself and follow that example and that all others who wish to can as well.

    • Michael December 2, 2016 at 4:18 pm - Reply

      I think you hit the nail on the head with this comment Justin – Mark’s first-hand account of making immense personal sacrifices to gain true liberation tells of a treasure which is indeed worth selling everything else to gain. His story is more than inspiring and I agree that these chapters in particular have been deeply moving.

  14. Frosted November 29, 2016 at 7:24 am - Reply

    I have spent this past weekend reading chapters of your Biography. I am happy to say that you taught me at the two storey house at Bondi Junction, before the move to the Mill Hill centre.

    Mark, you taught me from about September 1996, al through 1997 and the early part of 1998. The detailed notes I had from your classes assisted me through my darkest times including homelessness caused by my own stupidity; addictions; divorce etc. No matter how dark my life became, I would recall lessons and still do to this day, that still get through the darkest times.
    I realise that you have been unfairly persecuted and more than enough people have share their amazing experience. I would like to balance this with some humour. When I attended your classes both myself and my partner dressed in all black … we were Goths. Mark and Edith at the time never judged us. Mark, on would occasion sit with me before class and ask me questions to ensure that I understood the classes. I learned so much from these pre-lesson talks, but I digress from the humour.

    Humour & Astral Practice – We were doing the astral split practice where Mark would get us to relax, then concentrate and then hopefully experience the split. I used to sit at the front of class near the open window. This was a 2 storey dwelling and we were on the top floor. I tried so hard to split that I tried to take my physical body into the astral meaning that I would physically rise from my chair. When the practice ended I was almost standing. Both my partner and Mark said smiled. Mark said, “now that would have been an achievement …. Taking your physical body into the astral. “Everyone burst out laughing. The next time we did the practice, Mark told me not to sit so close to the window and to further make a point, and he shut the window. Mark could obviously deal with a Goth physically floating around the ceiling but did not want me falling out of the two-storey house.

    Mark, for every person who has cause you pain, there are many us, the silent majority who welcome your teachings and understand that you are a true teacher. I have come across students from your 1995 classes at Bondi Junction and we share the same experience and we all say, “how lucky we were to be taught by Mark in class.” I now realise the meaning to the adage “when the student is ready the master will appear.” In my case this is absolute truth.
    I would like to say, thank you, thank you and THANK YOU for everything.

    • Justin November 29, 2016 at 2:28 pm - Reply

      Thank you for sharing your experience Frosted. I enjoyed reading it (and smiled a few times). My experience of learning from Mark has been the same as yours – patient and generous helping and a great sense of humour :).

    • Mike November 30, 2016 at 4:43 am - Reply

      Thanks, Frosted, for sharing those experiences. I also smiled at those stories and they also reminded me, yet again, of the incredible sincerity with which Mark has carried out his inner work. And his sense of humour is just amazing!

    • Paty November 30, 2016 at 9:14 am - Reply

      Great story Frosted, thanks so much for sharing.

    • Olga November 30, 2016 at 10:53 am - Reply

      Yes thank you very much Frosted, a wonderful and touching reminder of the true, kind, non-judging, and humorous nature of Mark’s teaching.

      But enough of the silent majority 🙂 I personally would love to see more stories out there revealing those beautiful and true accounts of positive experiences Mark had on people’s lives.

    • john p December 1, 2016 at 8:55 am - Reply

      Thanks Frosted, I was very happy to read that these teachings have always got you through dark times in your life.
      I really enjoyed your story, it was quite funny, heart felt, and I’m really glad that you shared it with us.

      Hopefully many of us can share our pleasant stories about the true Belsebuub. And since they seem to get lost on blogs, it would be great to have them on The history of The Gnostic Movement and Remembering The Gnostic Movement sites.

    • Jenny December 2, 2016 at 7:22 am - Reply

      Thanks for sharing that, Frosted. Happy to report I smiled many times throughout — it’s the kind of story you can really picture well if you’ve ever met Mark 🙂

      And I can only imagine how incredible those Bondi days were — I remember hearing many wonderful stories and memories about them from those who were there, wishing I had the ability to have been there too.

  15. Suavi November 28, 2016 at 7:29 am - Reply

    Such powerful, inspiring and humbling experiences; simply beyond words. Thank you Mark from the bottom of my heart for sharing your amazingly wonderful and magical story with us.

  16. Ella November 27, 2016 at 9:25 pm - Reply

    Thank you so much Mark for revealing what you have been through and enabling us to be so inspired by your story. It’s so much to take in and absorb I can’t say much more than that for now – I am kind of left speechless in the face of it.

  17. David November 27, 2016 at 4:53 pm - Reply

    Reading through your story Mark has always moved me a lot, touching and inspiring a spiritual yearning deep inside, but reading through the last installment is beyond words. It really struck me that even though there is so much chaos and darkness in the world we are in such a privileged position to be able to learn from you and your life’s journey to inspire our own.

    It seems a very rare and unique opportunity to be able to learn from someone who has walked the whole path, and reading it left me so thankful for this and all the opportunities you give us, but also sad for our mistakes and that you suffered unnecessarily and were forced into anonymity due to our inaction.

    I really hope with all my heart that we have been able to and continue to correct the internal issues that led to that happening, and that anyone who is interested can go beyond what we think we are capable of in supporting you to restore the religion of the sun, and in using what we learn from you to grow our own light and to liberate ourselves from having to be reborn in such dark times.

    I can’t say I comprehend what it would be like to go through everything you have and to find out that this was just the beginning of a much greater work. It’s humbling when I think of how much I have to go, but the way you describe it is comforting also in some way despite its enormity – even though it is so advanced understanding more about the process you have gone through makes it very human and real, like it’s something we all have the capacity to achieve, not some far off fairytale.

    Thankyou for everything. If your bio site on its own is this inspiring I can’t imagine what we’re going to get to read in those books about the path you are working on! 🙂

    • Michael December 2, 2016 at 4:21 pm - Reply

      Yes, that’s right David – “if your bio site on its own is this inspiring I can’t imagine what we’re going to get to read in those books about the path you are working on”. As for many of us, Mark’s account of walking the path is also a huge inspiration for me, which I can revisit time and time again and still gain new learning and motivation from.

  18. Sabah November 27, 2016 at 2:04 pm - Reply

    I too am blown away by what I read on your biography, the journey you have taken and continue on is literally a modern-day epic, and to be honest I am stunned that it’s unfolded here in my lifetime.

    I also feel extremely remorseful that although I was there, I failed to do all I could have to defend, or make full use of the situations at the time for my own inner learning. How many people in history had the chance we had? I cannot comprehend fully the potential and opportunity we had there and am so saddened that I didn’t make good use of it.

    I am so sorry for my failures and lack of care and action which affected you and those around you, myself, and ultimately humanity which lost a rare and divine gift in TGM. Thank you so much for continuing to endure and move forward despite being abandoned by those of us whom you had sacrificed so much for to help. Because of your commitment, you have given us more opportunities, more than we deserve, to learn and hopefully overcome whatever it is that’s holding us back.

    I pray that we can all reach the understanding and responsibility to learn from our mistakes and be able to move forward in our own inner work. I also hope that through this, we can become trustworthy and committed enough to be part of bringing the profound teaching of the spiritual sun that you have uncovered to others.

    • Michael December 2, 2016 at 4:35 pm - Reply

      I think you’ve expressed very well what many of us here feel Sabah. I also have a great regret that I didn’t do more to defend TGM when I had the opportunity to do so and feel very sorry for my inaction. And yet despite our collective neglect and error, we are so fortunate to still have Mark’s guidance and to be alive at a time when we have the requirements of the path towards the awakening laid out clearly before us, through the events of Mark’s life.

      Your description of Mark’s journey as a “modern day epic” is very apt and is certainly no exaggeration, particularly as what is written in the biography is really just the tip of the iceberg in depicting Mark’s own level of esoteric exploration and achievement. You have also summarised my own thoughts in your last paragraph. I too hope that we can each learn from our mistakes and do all that is needed to support these profound teachings of light and to allow them to be known in the world, so that we and others have the opportunity to live them fully, and by doing so, to also gain the spiritual treasures that Mark has earned through his own continuous efforts and sacrifices.

  19. Sue Leigh November 27, 2016 at 12:28 pm - Reply

    Thank you so much Belsebuub and Angela.

    I’m both in awe and humbled to have had the privilege to read this article and to have met Belsebuub. What a great honour it was to meet a man who had the strength and courage to face and overcome so much in order to achieve such heights. This, in my mind, makes it all the worse that others try to claim his work as their own, when they have faced nothing.

    I am truly inspired and can only hope to gain the strength to move forward – I think I will be reading this over and over for a very long time.

    Thank you.

    • Michael December 3, 2016 at 10:21 am - Reply

      Yes, that’s right Sue. It must be very hard for Mark to have sacrificed so much to gain the knowledge that he is passing on, only to see the fruits of his labour appropriated and distorted by those who have no real esoteric knowledge. Moreover, it must be even more heart-breaking for Mark to have gained direct experience of what awaits those who don’t take up the spiritual path and to give everything he has to pass on this information and to then see it becoming fragmented by those who use it for profit and, whether intentionally or not, to mislead others, so that they are taken away from the light.

  20. Christos November 27, 2016 at 10:09 am - Reply

    This chapter on his Biography site left me with awe on what a person can accomplish. There is so much we can do with our life and beyond. The article really put into perspective what I need to value most in my life. Petty things and time wasting just keeps me from getting there.

    Thanks Mark. I wish I will realize in time how I could take this work more seriously so that I also get to taste these realities. your life is an inspiration and a lesson.

    • Jordan November 27, 2016 at 3:00 pm - Reply

      You really captured how I felt when reading this Christos. It’s such an absolute inspiration and true example for us all.

      While it’s an absolute tragedy that the trials, tribulations, and suffering (and their physical results and repercussions) have continued longer than they needed to (and I believe that’s a serious cause for reflection for anyone who is part of it to any degree), Mark in going through this process of the path from his end has still managed to emerge victorious with treasures that are, as mentioned above, simply awe-inspiring.

      It’s also interesting that it keeps going “into the unknown” so-to-speak. I remember Mark giving a talk about how with regard to the spiritual work in our lives, you just have to take the next step, one at a time. So it’s interesting to see that it’s the same sort of principle no matter what stage you find yourself at.

      I’ve found Mark’s work, life, and message has always been a breath of fresh air amongst all the ideas and preconceptions in spirituality of how things “should” be or how one “should” act, etc. And so it is with the uncovering and hopefully spreading of the religion of the sun essentially, which I am very grateful to take part in, in whatever ways that I can.

  21. Matthew November 27, 2016 at 9:20 am - Reply

    Thank you Mark for sharing your incredible story. Rising above such terrible hardship and attaining permanent heaven within… words cannot do your life justice. I can say that your story is inspiring, but that doesn’t really cut it.

    One principle that did come through very strongly for me, was the need to use opposition for your salvation, look within and change when faced with great difficulty and uphold your responsibilities whatever the odds, and hold fast to the goal of reuniting with your Being no matter what. Pursue that steadfastly over and above the things of the world, sacrificing whatever you need to. That is something we can all take to heart, wherever we may be at in life.

    For my part I want to say sorry for not acting when the attacks started, as I know this inaction prolonged the circumstances and your suffering much longer than had to be. I have a very bad habit of learning lessons the hard way. I am very grateful you have continued to provide spiritual guidance and support even though we failed you at the time, and with this opportunities to correct mistakes.

    Although it is frankly beyond my comprehension, I am happy to read that you are being rewarded in full after all you have suffered and have found an ineffable happiness. I truly hope that your amazing work to explain the path as a religion of the sun can illuminate the world (or least any parts of it that want it). That is something I truly wish to be part of and it gives inspiration to truly live out what you have described so marvelously.

  22. Jenny November 27, 2016 at 6:55 am - Reply

    Mark, thank you so much for sharing the experience of your spiritual journey through your biography site. It has given a lot of insight into the process of inner transformation and your explained experience really puts things into perspective. It is incredible what you have suffered and endured. I’m very sad and sorry to have contributed to your prolonged suffering due to my inactions. It is truly amazing and extraordinary the inner work you have accomplished and what you have gained internally. I have a deep respect for the inner work you have accomplished, and it gives me great inspiration. The experiences shared in the last installment of your biography on the power of light your being has against the darkness is truly remarkable, and inspiring. It brings hope in such a dark world and time. I sincerely thank you for your work, for your endurance, and for your efforts to share your experience in such a clear, understandable way so that others can have the chance to do the same, and for your work to unearth revive the ancient religion of the sun. There is hope for this work to go out to the world again and I am so grateful to be able to have the opportunity to be a part of it.

  23. Dara November 27, 2016 at 5:00 am - Reply

    Thank you so much Mark for sharing everything on the biography site, this last update is just amazing. While so much of it seems really distant, the explanation of what it all means is makes it more understandable at the same time.

    One thing that really inspired me was to read what motivated you through all the obstacles and difficulties you overcame.

    It’s also very sobering to reflect on the attacks and what happened to you and try to understand what was going on internally for those of us who had the opportunity and capacity to defend.

    Really appreciate the explicitness of all that’s been shared.

  24. Jon November 27, 2016 at 4:08 am - Reply

    Mark’s story leaves me speechless. It’s hard to comprehend the enormity. A cause for deep personal reflection.

    • Rob February 28, 2017 at 6:32 am - Reply

      Amazing how Mark has just outlined the path for all of us to see. How fortunate are we to be alive now and have the opportunity to do something about it while there is still time. Like a lot of others commenting I feel a deep regret for not doing more. It’s a sad thing but the past is the past and we need to move forward. Lets make the religion of the Sun materialize again. Big thank you to Belsebuub, Angela and also Edith for all you have done.

      • Lucia March 1, 2017 at 10:44 am - Reply

        Hi Rob, is it you? 🙂 Nice to see you back here and that you are determined!

  25. Olga November 26, 2016 at 9:59 pm - Reply

    Thank you Mark. You have shown and revealed how much is going on in this world beyond comprehension, and how a force of light can impact so much, you being one single source of light, that puts forces of darkness and their work at risk. I can only imagine what more forces of light at such advanced stages could bring to this world.

    It is quite daunting to consider that the end of times are at hand, one could be either passive or fearful at the outcome. But again, your work offers the potential to take a fierce initiative that’s rooted in internal change. It seems there is really no other way.

  26. Fotis November 25, 2016 at 6:00 pm - Reply

    This last chapter it’s incredible. Thank you so much!
    Due to the advanced spiritual stage of Belsebbub, is very hard for me to understand the concept of his descriptions which are combined with other sacred texts.

    But there are a lot of points which are motivating me to try to see more clearly and to develop my perception in order to be able to see more.

    My warmest congratulations for your enormous achievements Belsebuub!
    I wish/pray you complete your current mission successfully.
    May the religion of the sun revive again. “Religion, he says, in its truest sense”

  27. Patricia November 25, 2016 at 2:37 pm - Reply

    Thank you Mark (Belsebuub) for sharing and teaching us about your incredible and awe-inspiring spiritual journey. I’m truly sorry I couldn’t have been more supportive during those times of your great tribulations. I can only hope to learn from and reflect on the hardships and obstacles you were faced with while continuously working to bring these teachings to humanity out of love and self-sacrifice. It is extremely joyous to know that a once ordinary person living in my lifetime has undergone the completion of the stage of ascension in the path where they have reunited with the Father and that it’s not limited to an ancient myth or a biblical story! It’s incredible to read that the spiritual learning process really never ceases and that the transformation doesn’t necessarily stop at the third mountain with a physical death. After reading this chapter to the biographical account, I can only hope to be able to continue to work harder on myself so that I can be more helpful to others and supportive of the light in this world. I sincerely hope that the ancient spirituality of the sun reaches all of humanity.

  28. jenny November 25, 2016 at 12:13 pm - Reply

    This was really just incredible to read. I don’t even know what to say really, other than adding another “wow” to the chorus. I find it’s so easy to over-complicate spirituality (or worse, make it seem effortless and meaningless; a “feel good” thing at best), yet somehow, Mark, you manage to bring it back down to raw practicality and make this work realistic again and again in so many ways through sharing your experience.

    Hearing about these final stages in your work made me feel joyful — what a beautiful thing to have accomplished!

    • Paty November 26, 2016 at 11:18 am - Reply

      ‘Hearing about these final stages in your work made me feel joyful – what a beautiful thing to have accomplished!’

      Yes, Jenny, really well put 🙂

  29. Daniel L November 25, 2016 at 10:40 am - Reply

    What could we have done to have better defended the Gnostic Movement?

    • DavidP November 25, 2016 at 1:10 pm - Reply

      Do what we eventually did much sooner – exposed the attackers and their lies with their real names using our real names and the truth to do it.

      • DavidP November 25, 2016 at 2:57 pm - Reply

        when I say real names I mean full names

      • Michael December 2, 2016 at 4:50 pm - Reply

        You have summarised succinctly what needed to be done at the time David. It seems so clear to us now and yet it’s amazing how we somehow collectively missed the point of how we needed to act at the time of the attacks. We have learnt the hard way by witnessing the closure of a precious and unique esoteric school that we all benefitted from so much, but at least through this, we have gained a greater understanding of the urgency and responsibility to support and defend the light in the world, which I hope each of us will put into action.

    • Vadim November 26, 2016 at 11:47 am - Reply

      Hi Daniel,

      Ideally, if possible, tackle things when they just started to arise, not let misunderstandings and resentments grow into problems and hostility and eventually become well prepared conscious attacks.

      • Layla November 27, 2016 at 5:12 am - Reply

        It was not because of misunderstandings and resentments that prompted those to attack. That is blaming the people in the organisation for being the cause of those people’s own negativity and deliberate acts, and rendering the attackers as innocent and provoked, which is a false perspective, and factually incorrect in every sense.

        We failed to defend against the attackers, and that failure stems from ideas, beliefs, attitudes, and our own inner negativity which voiced itself strongly through silence. Jenny’s comment below gives a lot of points for reflection and understanding, that we desperately need to try to get to…

        • Vadim November 27, 2016 at 7:22 am - Reply

          You misunderstood my reply to Daniel, as you usually do with my posts, and put into it the meaning which was not there.

          In regards to your analogy about the bus, that you mentioned in your other post, I agree with it overall, but I think it would be much more honestly and humbly for you to call it a big train, where only a small group of people sitting in the front, could see clearly what was going on with the driver and had the means of a clear communication and effective interference.

          Also Layla, I believe this is not the first time when I post something here, peacefully answering a question or asking it on my own, and you put your post next to mine “correcting me” and “explaining how things really are”. Did I ever behave like that with you? Do you really think that is a good spiritual attitude to be displayed on this website? And did I ever ask you to share with me your point of view?

          • Layla November 27, 2016 at 10:26 am

            If there is a misunderstanding of what you meant, could you please explain it?

            With the attacks, there was nothing hidden that could not be seen no matter where any of us were, be it a train or a bus, since it was all online and everyone in it knew about it.

            The driver didn’t communicate a position or effective interference, each person acted according to their understanding, fears, attitudes, ideas, beliefs and so on. The driver was also put in a position to act according to the situation, and he was the only one that acted with any sense of responsibility, duty and care and took on the brunt of the attacks alone because of this sense to act, even though it caused him much suffering.

            Its not the manner in which you have posted your question that I have challenged, its the points in your reply to a public question that Daniel made openly to engage a discussion, which is an important question for everyone seeking to understand about spirituality. I addressed the points in your reply since you have said what would be ‘ideal’ in hindsight in regards to The Gnostic Movement, but the points you make espouse a factually incorrect scenario in relation to the movement.

            I see the need to uphold the truth to the best of my knowledge and experience, which sadly I didn’t see at the time it mattered the most, and is why we are where we are now. I understand now that’s its the duty of everyone who is interested in setting the record straight and making things clear now and into the future.

            Spirituality is not bound by ideas or attitudes about it, its in action and standing up for the truth. It would be more spiritually harmful to myself and all people here in this public discussion to not say what I know, no matter where or from whom it initiated from. I have nothing personal in my reply to you or anyone here. I speak like anyone else in this community because I do value this website and all the suffering that has gone into it for all our spiritual upliftment. I would expect clarification on anything I made from this community as they saw the need for understanding.

          • DavidP November 27, 2016 at 10:37 am

            Would you mind clarifying what it was you meant by that post? If you see someone has misunderstood your post why not give a clarification? Why shouldn’t someone reply to your public posts on a public forum when all they were doing was to put the truth to what they saw as incorrect information about what lead to the attacks?

          • Vadim November 28, 2016 at 2:15 am

            Are you really interested in my clarifications? Come on…whom are you kidding? I said what I said, clearly and concisely. There is nothing to be clarified there.

          • DavidP November 28, 2016 at 7:13 am

            Yes I really wouldn’t mind if you clarified it, no joking at all, I was being sincere.

            If you only mean what happened once the attacks first started rather than what transpired before then well then there are still inaccuracies in what you’ve said as the attacks were started consciously and fuelled by their already existing resentments and hostility.

            Either way the implications of what you’ve said ( whether intentional or not) denies what had to happen in Mark’s path, that is, being betrayed and flayelled on a world scale so by posting what you did you are disagreeing with what Mark himself has explained on the Biography site.

            Admittedly, though the scale of the attacks had to be big, they didn’t have to go as long as they did so that TGM had to be closed and for my part in that I am truly sorry.

            I apologise to you Vadim and all previous participants that you lost the esoteric school in which you used to be in and enjoyed so much, I deeply apologise to Mark with every cell of my body the whole of my mind and my whole heart with a feeling that which words cannot express, and I apologise to the Divine and all of humanity.

            From what I have learned from all this (at too great a cost) I will never make the same mistakes again.

          • Ella November 28, 2016 at 11:24 am

            Vadim, I can see how your explanation could be taken as meaning that the attacks could have been avoided if we had acted quicker, and without resentments or misunderstandings. The conscious attacks needed to happen as part of Mark’s path – right? So they couldn’t have been avoided and weren’t created by our collective actions or inaction. Yet the Gnostic Movement didn’t need to collapse and we could have all done a lot more to better defend and protect Mark as he went through the trials and thus defend TGM. If you mean we should have acted quicker in this regard I think we’d all agree on that.

            Wherever we were sitting on that bus, even if we were at the back and couldn’t see what was going on, we are responsible for that. When I look back at that time, I can’t really even remember what was going on internally with me such was the internal muddle. I know I felt confused and uncomfortable and was unable to act without instruction; I wanted the difficulties to go away and for us to all return to that happy time of active centres and optimism – these are all faults that came from within and I can’t wish that others would have helped me by babysitting me and telling me what to do and when.

            Of course, I am deeply remorseful and sorry that I did not act differently, but it reveals my level and for that I am grateful; all I can hope for now is that those egos that caused my wrong action have been somewhat seen and removed. Yet I have the feeling they are still at play within my psyche, still not letting me really see and appreciate Belsebuub for what he really is, not letting me take full advantage of the opportunities of growth and change that the darkness brings, still keeping me passive.

            The question for me now is what can we do at this time? A huge amount has been revealed to us. The end of humanity is coming. Now there is no question about that. Belsebuub will be overseeing it, if that’s the right term. What does this mean? There are so many new opportunities presenting themselves now to help spread his message of light, and where there was a drought for those of us not involved with projects, there is now a well spring of new activities that need our support. Are these the chances we need to make sure those collective egos that let our precious TGM collapse are truly dead and buried?

            Thank you to Belsebuub, Angela and everyone involved for bringing these earth shattering updates forward to humanity, as well as for creating these new projects to spread the message and tools of awakening to others to such a high standard.

          • Karim El Bazi November 28, 2016 at 9:52 pm

            Refering to something Ella said: “Are these the chances we need to make sure those collective egos that let our precious TGM collapse are truly dead and buried?”

            I found that to know one’s flaws at that time, often we can just look at how we are now, and we’ll see the same things. Such as in our measure of activity. Our obstacles.
            It seems now, even more than ever, it’s incredibly important to work hard in order to give these teachings a chance to flourish. Why does this not penetrate enough to make us totally serious and overcome any obstacle. And if we do try where do we need to improve.
            Does helping to bring such amazing teachings of the Sun to humanity require a level of dedication and responsibility for a person? Are we such people? Are we in good standing with the divine forces as a community? Are we still missing something? What action is needed from individuals? What do we need to change, and show in action to move forward?

          • Vida December 1, 2016 at 4:01 am

            You’ve made some great points here Ella. I can really relate to what you’re saying because it was a confusing time for me back then as well, and it was sometimes difficult to see exactly what to do or how to help in a way that made an impact.

            We were all on that ‘bus’ and losing TGM meant we all lost something extremely valuable, and it’s awful that Mark bore more of the brunt of it and suffered more than he had to because it wasn’t properly defended.

            When I think back to it all, even when I did make efforts to help at the time, I definitely held back in so many ways or missed opportunities because of my own passivity, laziness and fear. Some of my actions even made things even worse for Mark, for which I’m truly sorry for.

            I remember at the time having some really vivid dreams about TGM, and how we were losing the battle, not just because of the people attacking, but from those within the movement itself.

            It was incredibly sad and tragic then, and still feels so now, seeing Mark’s work still unable to be as accessible for people as it should be.

          • Michael December 2, 2016 at 4:38 pm

            I agree with what you’ve said here David. I am also deeply sorry to have contributed towards the closure of a unique and valuable esoteric school through my own inaction and I sincerely hope that the mistakes I and others made will not be repeated.

          • Michael December 3, 2016 at 10:30 am

            You’ve made some good points here Ella. Although the visible attacks have now thankfully stopped, there is still the ongoing battle between light and darkness in the world, which continues unseen. We can’t allow ourselves to think that now the business of defending the light appears to be over, we can comfortably slip back into passivity and slacking off, as the same forces that allowed the attacks to take place are still active within us and within the world.

          • Michael December 3, 2016 at 10:39 am

            Thanks Layla – I think you have clarified those points clearly. Like you, I would also expect clarification on any point I made that could be misinterpreted, as I feel the truth is more important than my own beliefs and opinions. In fact, I recently felt I needed to clarify one of my own posts in reply to one of your comments in another thread, as I badly expressed a point I was trying to make, which could have potentially been misleading, even though unintentionally.

            It’s important that the truth is portrayed as accurately as possible and we can all understand the need for this, as there have been so many falsehoods deliberately portrayed in the past. There are many of us here who have some experience and background knowledge of these teachings and who may know the deeper truth of certain matters, but we also need to consider our responsibility towards newcomers to the site and give them the best opportunity we can to find the truth in the most objective way possible.

          • Michael December 3, 2016 at 10:48 am

            You made an excellent observation here Karim, which is worthy of reflection: “I found that to know one’s flaws at that time, often we can just look at how we are now, and we’ll see the same things”.

          • john perez December 4, 2016 at 7:41 am

            Hi Vadim,

            I found that Layla has explained her herself very clearly in both replies to you, a simple clarification to her first reply is all that was needed. To be honest I would’ve also appreciated a clarification.

          • Vadim December 5, 2016 at 2:21 am

            Hi john perez,

            To be honest, based on the content of posts that you write on this website, I am not really interested in your opinion in regards to what I wrote or Layla posted, etc., but I certainly respect your freedom to express your personal point of view.

            I am here to study Mark’s work, this is something, which is very interesting to me.

            You can feel the support of your buddies here, but you are really not in a position to give me an advice on what should I do, I hope, I made myself clear.

          • Ella December 5, 2016 at 7:51 am

            Vadim your tone in response to John makes me flinch. Please don’t make things personal on here – I know they have become personal in the past but please don’t perpetuate it.

            I also wanted to mention something I remember about my inner reasoning during the attacks that made me stay away from the difficult work of defense – I thought something like “maybe we can/should/are supposed to do different things individually”. I thought that it was for some of the group to be involved in the defense, while others, like myself, could be part of a different area of the teachings, i.e., the more enjoyable work of spreading the teachings. Although I feel there may be a truth in different people having different roles or positions (we’re all under one of seven rays, right? and awakened beings by Mark’s accounts can be given different roles in the higher dimensions) I think it still shows I wasn’t able to see the reality of what was going on at the time and what was important to do.

          • john perez December 5, 2016 at 10:35 am

            Hi Vadim,

            Thanks for your response, it appears that you may have misunderstood the intention of my comment and I sincerely apologise if I’ve caused you harm.

            This blog should be a celebration for Belsebuub and hopefully we can all join in as friends.

            Wishing you all the strength.

          • Michael December 5, 2016 at 4:58 pm

            Hi John,

            I just wanted to say I have appreciated your contributions to this site, as I feel they have shown warmth, honesty and sincerity, with an objective outlook and a willingness to acknowledge and correct past mistakes, all of which are important in doing a truly spiritual work.

          • john perez December 6, 2016 at 6:59 pm

            Thank you Micheal.

        • DavidP November 27, 2016 at 9:37 am - Reply

          I was one of the ones who was working with and witness to the smear campaign instigators resentments, power grabbing, divisiveness and hostility within the TGM membership and we had to deal with it by asking them to leave TGM which was the right thing to do as their behaviour was not appropriate over a period of time and was out of place in a spiritual organisation.

          It was a duty we had as members of the Movement to uphold its principles and standards, it was not done out of revenge or malice towards them, it was just very sad to see how out of step with the right principles and standards they had become. We had hopes they would learn and grow and change for the better from this but eventually their negativity drove them to attack after they were denied access to post on the Belsebuub.com forums. The attacks started very quickly after that which to me looks like they were already planning it before hand.

          It was their own inner negativity which caused them to act in the ways they did and that negativity is why they were the ones who were put in place for the betrayal in Mark’s path to take place. So in that regard the attacks had to take place, there was no preventing it, it was orchestrated from above.

          What we then did or didn’t do in regards to the attacks is something for personal reflection because in the end it was not adequate and the Movement had to close and humanity is without an esoteric organisation and Mark is still largely unknown and in my view isn’t completely free to teach like he used to due to the legacy of the attacks and the anti-cult movement. Things could not be more dire. How would someone find the work now?

          I know for my part although I did do and say some things to defend there is more I realise I could have done/said and sooner. If we had all done as much as was possible for us to do earlier and considered TGM as ours and each taken full responsibility for it whether a student, teacher or member (not leaving it for someone else to take care of or as merely “helping” someone else) and if we had a proper care for our spiritual teacher and for ourselves then things would be different now. The issue is passivity and lack of care as individuals and as a community and doing what we want not what was needed. People were too silent and/or off in the practice room whilst the temple burned down around them.

          Eventually some of us did what was needed to bring the attacks to an end using their full names and our full names and the truth but it got very little support from the wider community, hardly anyone commented on those sites.

          Since then some of us have been fortunate to be involved in projects but that is not an esoteric school or some sort of replacement for TGM. MLP is just a publisher not a spiritual group. I don’t see any new school starting soon either despite the opportunity that was previously offered through The Spiritual Sun site.

          I hope that we can all turn things around asap and support things in the right way, do what is needed in the way it is needed and not just do what we want but make things right for ourselves, for Mark and Angela, for humanity, for now and the future.

          • Olga November 27, 2016 at 12:07 pm

            With the ashes of our temple before us, it is fair to say that the scenes have considerably changed. But here we are again, at another day to do our part, to learn, to take initiative, and to collectively unite for the better good. History again is in our hands, what good can we bring from this, what new understanding can lead us towards new action, new activity and involvement.

            Perhaps stone by stone we could rebuild the temple, rebuild that stronghold of support for the light, while simultaneously building our own temples internally.

          • Paty November 28, 2016 at 11:23 am

            I really appreciate this David, thank you so much.

          • john p November 28, 2016 at 12:18 pm

            Very deep and beautifully said Olga, thank you.

          • chris scott November 30, 2016 at 8:03 am

            Hi olga, thankyou for the beautiful words you have wrote. It has given me much to reflect on…

          • Roy November 30, 2016 at 6:04 pm

            Thanks David for sharing, from your viewpoint, what transpired in those moments leading up to the attacks and how standards and principles within TGM were not upheld by those who eventually turned against the movement, playing their part in Mark’s betrayal. I think you sum up quite well what happened for a lot of us during this process.

            “The issue is passivity and lack of care as individuals and as a community and doing what we want not what was needed. People were too silent and/or off in the practice room whilst the temple burned down around them.”

            I see this passivity you describe in me, not only in relation to TGM but in general when things need to be defended in my life or for truth. If the opposition is great enough, fear comes in combined with a tendency to back down and a want for the conflict to resolve. However, that conflict may be the very thing needed to separate the lie from truth. By not making the effort, things remain obscure or even false while the lie continues. In that, I see no love whatsoever, no care for spirituality, truth or appreciation for what we currently have. Although my mind makes me believe differently, my lack of action speaks for itself and has spoken for me when TGM went down. Those points are definitely worth reflecting on and getting to the bottom of what drives my passivity. If I want to lead a more spiritual life, then those difficulties are the very things I need in order to progress.

            I do see the ways I can make a difference, which Olga has portrayed so beautifully. Throughout the day I have numerous ways to make a small difference when these states come up and can do what’s right or what I want. We luckily have again a day ahead of us to work and create. The fact that we are still here tells me that I or perhaps we as a community have not yet gotten to the bottom of what we need to learn.

          • Michael December 2, 2016 at 11:27 am

            Well said David. Thanks for giving your first-hand experience of the events you witnessed at the time, along with your reflections on how we could have acted differently. You gave an appropriate analogy when you said “people were too silent and/or off in the practice room whilst the temple burned down around them.”

            Although many of us feel that we have all learnt and grown in our sense of responsibility and understanding since the close of TGM, I agree that unfortunately the same pattern of passivity and indifference is repeating in general, which if left unchecked will perpetuate the same kind of tragedies, where the presence of the light becomes less and less visible in a world of darkness. I think you made an important point about the need to do what is needed in the way it’s needed and not just follow whatever catches our interest at a particular point in time. If we can do this, then at least there is a chance for the light in the world to shine and for people to find and follow it.

        • Michael December 2, 2016 at 4:43 pm - Reply

          Hi Layla,

          I agree with the points you made and think it’s important to each understand clearly the circumstances at the time and the effects of our own actions and inaction. It would have been great if it was a simple case of appealing to the attackers’ better nature and trying to resolve their grievances. But as we all know, the attackers were unfortunately without reason and no amount of evidence to the contrary could divert them from their mission to destroy Mark’s reputation and bring down the organisation he had worked so hard to create.

        • Seraphim December 26, 2016 at 9:25 pm - Reply

          I agree with you, Layla.

          There isn’t any good reason that Belsebuub and TGM received all those bad attacks.

          As enough time has passed from then, is clearer than ever.

      • Steve November 27, 2016 at 5:51 am - Reply

        Hi Vadim

        I really think that this perspective is confusing the issue again. The question by Daniel was “what could have we done better to defend the Gnostic Movement”. Defend means that an attack has already occurred and the problem was that the Movement sat generally idle while Mark was attacked and hence the defense wasn’t strong enough to repel the onslaught of attacks at the time.

        Your post seems to imply that it was the Movements fault that the attackers started the attack in the first place by not sorting out any “Misunderstandings and letting resentments grow”. This is not the case, The people that started the attacks were members of the Gnostic Movement who were acting badly in their positions, this was brought to their attention and due to continual bad behavior lead to them being asked to leave, which I see as the old movement doing what had to be done at the time. It is not the Gnostic movements fault the people who attacked the movement acted like they did, they acted due to their own choices and the movement is not responsible for the choices that the attackers choose themselves to make.

        What we are responsible for is the actions or lack of actions that occurred once the attacks started because as people who took part in the courses we have a responsibility to defend the teachings if attacked and this was not done well enough to defend the Movement, this is an area the needs individual contemplation for each person.

        • john p November 27, 2016 at 6:58 am - Reply

          Thanks Layla and Steve for your understanding on the situation. I was one of the Australian Members who dealt with the members who viciously attack Belsebuub and the Gnostic Movement, therefore I totally agree with both of your comments.

        • Matthew November 27, 2016 at 8:14 am - Reply

          Valid point Steve.

          On Belsebuub’s biography, it explains how the attacks happened as part of the path Mark was walking, with the Being Belsebuub arranging things in the higher dimensions so that the necessary events occurred. They needed to happen for that stage of the path. So preventing the attacks was not really the issue here.

          I can say as someone who was involved, that the people who attacked had become openly hostile and were out of line with a spiritual school. They were given plenty of opportunities to change course, including after they left. But they choose a different track.

          In the end, a person is responsible for their own inner state and actions and can’t blame others for it. That is one of the basic principles of doing an inner work. Negativity is essentially a force of darkness. When a person gives in to it, whatever the circumstances or excuses they make for it, they align with forces directly opposed to spirituality, and they do that of their own volition. And that can drive them in a very destructive direction. In this case they ended up being used as part of what had to unfold. If they had overcome those states of darkness and fought for the light within, they would not have done what they did. Other people would have been found for the role though, as the drama needed to happen regardless.

          Since the attacks were inevitable, what is at issue here is how we failed to respond to them. The Movement fell apart not because it was attacked, which was ordained, but because of our failure to defend it properly and confront the attacks when they happened.

          I think the question asked about what could have been done is something each person should really reflect on and answer for themselves, rather than expecting to have it answered for them. I feel that one of the biggest contributing factors to our failure was passivity. A bunch of people sitting on their hands waiting for someone else to work out what can be done or tell them what to do, and not taking responsibility to come forward and work out what they can or should do. And since they aren’t told anything while being passive, conveniently washing their hands of any responsibility.

          In other cases it was worse than passivity — some people were openly hostile to anyone who tried to defend in whatever limited way. If you picture a boat with a gaping hole in it, filled with people, and water rapidly pouring in. A few people make a feeble effort to remove the water with their hats as the water is rising. Most people just carry on as they were before, oblivious or indifferent to what is happening. And some other people become angry toward those who are trying in whatever limited fashion to bail the water out, calling them fanatics who should focus on doing spiritual practices, and hitting them with the oars. Some bystanders look on and think this is wrong, but don’t want to be criticized also and look bad in the eyes of others, so say nothing. (Fear of what other thought was another big factor in the lack of action I feel, including fear of being targeted in the campaign like Mark was).

          What’s going to happen to a boat like that? It will sink.

          Eventually some action was taken, but it was far too late for The Gnostic Movement. It could have been done before, and the Movement could have been saved, and I feel that our passivity was one of the main reasons this didn’t occur.

          • john p November 29, 2016 at 10:07 am

            Thank you David P, David G, Layla, Steve, Justin, Jenny, Jordan, Olga, Sabah, Matthew, Ella, Lucia, Aleksandr, Karim, and anyone else who has shared their apologies to Belsebuub, this is something that I deeply echo. And thank you to every one of you who has come forward to set the record straight about The Gnostic Movement and the true Belsebuub. I understand how important this is for the future of the teachings.

            When I see how much Belsebuub has achieved in one life time, I feel so inspired. Hopefully we can all join together and follow his guidance and free ourselves from so much suffering.

          • Michael December 2, 2016 at 11:19 am

            You’ve made some very good points here Matthew. The level of hostility that came from the attackers had no place in a spiritual school. I also agree that it’s up to each of us to be responsible for our own actions – although we may be offered many opportunities to change our ways, we need to then act correctly in taking up those opportunities, otherwise we will face the consequences of our wrong actions.

            You summarised this point very well when you said “negativity is essentially a force of darkness. When a person gives in to it, whatever the circumstances or excuses they make for it, they align with forces directly opposed to spirituality, and they do that of their own volition”. The analogy of the sinking boat is also very apt and is one that we all need to learn from, in order to prevent it from happening again.

        • Michael December 2, 2016 at 11:21 am - Reply

          Thanks for clarifying those points Steve. Well said.

      • Martin November 27, 2016 at 9:03 am - Reply

        Hello Steve,

        I feel the point you make about individual contemplation is very important; thanks for bringing that up.

        There’s plenty to be learnt from all the horrible events that took place and everything that was lost.

        • Patricia November 28, 2016 at 5:52 am - Reply

          I don’t think there’s any point or benefit to blaming the lack of defence on a particular person or group of people, whether they worked more closely with Mark or not. I agree that this is something we need to reflect on individually so that the shortcomings we had experienced within ourselves are recognized, whether it was due to passivity, fear, etc. In other words, I failed to recognize, study and eliminate the harmful thoughts, emotions, impressions, ideologies and beliefs that were going on internally during that difficult time, preventing ME from understanding the seriousness of the situation and taking the appropriate action.

    • Layla November 26, 2016 at 5:08 pm - Reply

      To add to David’s reply

      Looked after the driver of the vehicle and trusted him, for he always got us to our stop, on time and with respect and kindness to all of us in the vehicle, he’s standard was the highest always but we failed to appreciate it along the way.

      At the very first time others were saying untrue things about he’s wonderful driving he had been doing and ridiculed him for no wrong doing, by calling him all sorts of names, we should have stepped up to the front of the vehicle and told those people that we don’t agree with them and its best that they leave, but we all sat silently in the bus and through that silence those people saw the driver had no support so they saw they could keep going and their lies grew stronger against the driver.

      Still as silent passengers we then watched on as the driver was being abused, then attacked until they had hurt him tremendously. We then were all told to get off the vehicle because the driver was so badly beaten the vehicle couldn’t go anywhere without him and it was no point in having a vehicle if people were not able to protect their driver let alone their own means of transport to get to their destination. So the passengers became stranded and isolated. As new people heard and became interested in the route, they found there wasn’t a vehicle to get there. They heard about what happened to the driver and all the wonderful things he had done for he’s passengers and how they had watched him be attacked and abused despite all of them receiving he’s care in so many ways. The new people were astonished, shocked and upset that the driver was treated like this and wondered how the passengers could have allowed it to happen since he was the only one able to drive that vehicle and the destination was so vital to reach. The passengers finally spoke to the authorities, said what happened and tried to stop the attackers but by that time so much harm had been done. In the meantime the driver, though abused and bashed about, did not lose he’s love for he’s work, nor was he negative to those that hurt him and even forgave he’s passengers for not supporting him, but the authorities still had to act, since a terrible wrong was committed and the passengers who became the bystanders were implicit in it happening.

      Remorse grew among the passengers, heavy hearted and laden with sorrow for what they had done, they then tried to visit the driver where he was, help him, support him since he was left unsupported in every way, and apologised to him, for he not only was their best and only driver, but he was a person like them and they felt deeply saddened that they had remained silent, evaded any harm themselves and allowed the full force of the brutal attacks to have been upon him alone. They each realised that they could have done something, said something and while some had done more than others, they all felt saddened by not having done all they could have. To this day the passengers say “if only I had…” but without really knowing why they didn’t who is to say they wouldn’t again? So the passengers tried to reflect and search for why they had not done all they could have and desperately try to understand what crippled them, so with that understanding they can get rid of that which stopped them in their heart, because they didn’t want that to ever happen again, they loved their driver deeply and felt ashamed at the harm he endured under their care since they all had told him how much they appreciated what he had done for them. They also sought out ways they could repair the damage since the driver had also been left with harm still acting upon him and all the good he had done. To this day the consequences of that non action unfolds today for everyone, without a vehicle, stranded in this way, as life brings forth events from action, and holds back the possibilities from non action as consequences unfold in their place. In each moment, action and non action are choices, which unfold into right action and wrong action, which unfold according to the level of understanding, care and love in one’s heart for the smallest of things to the largest of things. The difficulties the driver had endured then and for years after and even now, are far greater than the sum of all the passengers, because he alone suffered the abuse for the sake of everyone in that vehicle and for the sake of love and the true goodness that he’s heart is made of. His suffering and honorable work has lifted him to heights beyond, he loved he’s work and made use of it and knew each part of the route because he was sincere in he’s interest and responsible in every way with what he did and for he’s care for all that he provided the vehicle to to take them to their destination.

      This doesn’t answer the question in its entirety, its only a tiny part of the answer, and when each person comes to understand it in their own heart, since we are all part of the sum, then we can add to the answer and it can be move towards being the whole answer. Only when we understand it in our heart can we see for ourselves what we could have done, since we need to reach truth through the wisdom of the heart. Wishing everyone inner strength to search and to find, to knock and have the door opened and to ask and have it be given.

      Thank you Belsebuub for your loving kindness and forgiveness, your biography is both solemn and celebratory, and the happiness in your gentle smile is very beautiful.

      • Angela Pritchard November 27, 2016 at 1:12 am - Reply

        Except that the driver had to go to the authorities himself.

        • Layla November 27, 2016 at 2:48 pm - Reply

          Yes, an important clarification that says it all.

      • Karim El Bazi November 28, 2016 at 12:39 am - Reply

        Thanks Layla, David and everyone for providing your insights about that fundamental time, which helps again to gain a deeper and clearer understanding of it for me.

        Like Jenny said I think we all had our own level of action that we needed to take, which we were responsible for. I’ve also placed the situation that happened side by side with the times of Jesus and the passion. Asking myself: Who was I in that scenario? Where was I? What was I doing? The reality is really painful.
        The same comparison could be put to the bus driver analogy. Who was I in that scenario, where was I on the bus? What did I do?

        When seeing and reading about Peter denying the Christ. It feels so horrible, painful and so much like the wrong choice. It urges me to want to vouch for the Christ, shout it from the rooftops. But beyond what I feel what actions do I take in reality.
        It’s interesting to place myself into the bus analogy. How I was at that time so far back in the bus that I didn’t notice what was happening in the front, and accordingly when I did notice limited in what I could do. etc. But rather than putting all my personal specifics into this analogy it’s more a matter of personal reflection.

        But the question in what way and why I failed is interesting and important.

        Just one very specific personal thing I did see and wanted to mention: At one point when these lies and attacks were heavily ongoing I was trying to do what I could to refute them on a website that was set up to defend the truth. I was also praying for help a lot. But it felt like the scenario of: a preposterous lie being posted and then having people trying to refute it, was one that could continue on forever. And it did continue, so much so that virtually every single thing someone could come up with in order to slander and abuse was used and was thrown at Belsebuub…..
        What I want to mention is that one day Belsebuub wrote about how criminal behaviour like this, (slander about The Gnostic Movement etc.) is something that is illegal and that legal actions can be taken against it. I remember specifically when reading that how that idea hadn’t crossed my mind at all! Even though now or to others it might seem like quite an obvious way to pursue justice. How was it possible that I hadn’t even considered it back then?

        One thing I personally saw within me: Having felt discriminated against earlier in life. Which I saw had at its root the fear of being persecuted, feeling cast out by the society you’re part of, outside of ‘the group’ and the target of their attacks. A similar fear was/is present regarding the esoteric spirituality I feel I belong to, feeling that such a thing is not understood by society and when being open about it feeling I’m basically casting myself out of it and opening myself to attack.
        But this fear can also block someone from standing up for oneself. I had not learned in my life to stand up for myself. Thinking that doing that would reveal even more so that I am an ‘outsider’, thus giving more openings for attack (even though inside I knew my own value beyond skin colour, or in the current scenario’s sense: the truth and reality of esoteric teachings.)
        Anyhow because of this fear I also had the mindset of : “society” and everyday people don’t understand the esoteric and so would not side with goodness, because their judgement about the truth would depend on knowledge of things beyond the body which they wouldn’t be able to prove. And seeing having to prove the esoteric physically unfavourable to the situation etc.

        Angela described it so well a year or so later: ” They [the attackers] used the word cult (a bigoted word) to dehumanize Mark and then felt free to say whatever they wished, believing society supported them, allowing them to bully…”

        Because of that mindset I had I did believe society ‘supported’ the side of the attackers and this had me ‘locked’ in a real way. That’s why that post about pursuing justice through the legal system was such a ‘revolutionary’ idea to me, helping me to step out of that mindset.

        But there still much to learn to and overcome I feel.

        • Paty November 28, 2016 at 11:35 am - Reply

          Thanks for your honesty Karim.

        • Lucia November 28, 2016 at 4:32 pm - Reply

          That’s interesting, thanks for sharing Karim. For me, the fear of society judging me, etc… was not really an issue (or at least I am not aware of it), as I generally talk quite openly with people about what I am doing and don’t care that much about what they may think. But I had other issues, mainly passivity, and a fear of going into something that I don’t really know how to do (like let’s say starting a legal action or something like that). But its interesting to see and share these monsters that dwell within us and unmask them for what they really are. I can also imagine how these defects of ours are so well visible to the beings from other dimensions, and that’s why they can set up the tests so well for us – knowing exactly what our weak points are.

          Thanks for sharing again and wishing all the strength!

        • Michael December 4, 2016 at 2:45 pm - Reply

          Thanks Karim for this honest reflection. I can relate to what you mentioned about having the feeling of being an outsider ingrained at an early age, although the circumstances in which it manifested may have been different for each of us. I had also reflected upon Peter denying Jesus in relation to the attacks on Belsebuub and I think you highlighted a big stoppage that affected many of us in the same way it affected Peter two thousand years ago, which is fear.

          When we look into the history of esoteric knowledge throughout time, it is clear the continued suppression of it has also been strong and is something that recurs again and again. Moreover, as we now know that facing opposition is part of the process of awakening, it highlights the urgency of working upon these fears so that we can defend the light in an effective way, both in order to allow the light to grow within ourselves and for it to shine within the world.

      • richard spencer November 28, 2016 at 9:00 am - Reply

        Thanks Layla great analogy you really summed it up really well,

        Matthew you really make a lot of sense and I can relate to what you say, unfortunately!!! Hopefully we have all learnt and the outcome will be a lot different if it ever happens again

      • Zorana November 30, 2016 at 1:30 am - Reply

        Thank you, Layla, for this analogy. It was actually incredibly touching, even under the weight of such a subject.

    • jenny November 27, 2016 at 1:55 am - Reply

      Hi Layla, I just wanted to say that analogy is really good and definitely outlines some of the things that had gone wrong as that situation has unfolded.

      Daniel, I also wanted to add some things from my perspective. While I think the advice above about addressing misunderstandings straight away may be applicable to situations in life in general, I don’t know really that it applies in this case much as it wasn’t an issue of misunderstandings and resentments growing into hostility — or at least that wasn’t the heart of the issue from what I have seen.

      There was a whole cosmic drama unfolding before our eyes, yet we failed to see it, not a case of misunderstandings (though those may have been a part of it). The situation was such that our “driver”, as Layla put it, was put through incredibly difficult circumstances and unfairness, and really just downright abuse, and collectively not enough was done to shield him from the abusers, stand up when things needed to be stood up for, speak out when wrong was being done, and washing our hands off the matter through various reasons (like relying on others to take action, take care of things for us, tell us what to do, how to act, and so on, or even worse fighting or judging those who were actually trying to do something about it).

      I think each person was in a certain point on this large “map of inaction”. Some people may have been completely on the periphery, being new, or remote, or unfamiliar for example. Others were closer to the matters at hand. Others were anywhere in between. But each person had the opening to take action or take a stand in whatever their capacity was, whatever their understanding was, and whatever their roles were at the time, and on the whole not enough was done to take a stand against the people who sought to do so much harm and abuse and defame the driver until he was driven off into a corner, unable to teach of course, but also unable to just have basic human rights and freedoms.

      I think when reflecting on situations like this in retrospect, especially as their scale and proportion have been revealed and laid out for what they truly were, it’s easy to sort of mentally jump to what kind of physical action could we have taken in our circumstances, but I think the inaction also lies in a lot of subtleties, in our attitudes, and in our inner standards in life.

      If you think about the biblical drama for instance, and Peter’s role in doubting and denouncing the Christ, I think it was quite symbolic for how these types of cosmic events and circumstances bring up from within us some of our darkest elements — despite our best intentions, because if these things are inside us they will have to emerge in order for us to face them and see what’s really going on within.

      Likewise, in the events that took place, I think (and I’m speaking from just something I’ve observed inside myself) the tendency is to look at what could I have done physically (which is a good thing of course to reflect on too), but even deeper than that, what is it inside of myself that led to inaction? What attitudes caused me to “miss the train” so to speak? What held me back from doing what’s right in whatever capacity I had at the time? Why wasn’t I aligned with what needed doing? Why did I not understand things and so on… There were things that could have been done physically, and which needed support badly from all of us in whatever capacity we had, but I think it’s important to also reflect on the inner things, and have an honest look at our inner standards and attitudes that left us where we are today.

      • Layla November 27, 2016 at 4:28 am - Reply

        Thank you Jenny, well said and it gave me a clue into something I’ve been long looking to try to see and understand.

      • Olga November 27, 2016 at 11:31 am - Reply

        Thank you Jenny and Layla, I always appreciate the insights in these threads, they always spark a deeper reflection that I hadn’t considered or looked closely upon. Jenny, the biblical reference you made reminded me of another, when Pilate says to Jesus that his own nation has delivered Jesus to him, and Jesus responds ”My Kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence” (John 18:36)

        Jesus, in my opinion, speaks of a higher realm and of other beings that know the principles and understand the scope of urgency and security when it comes to the life and the work of a spiritual man. Does history repeat? Does the cosmic drama play again in order to convey a lack of insight towards the Chris’ts work on earth? I think we could make many excuses and justifications to why someone hasn’t step up or why we haven’t defended properly (which I think are all still valid to reflect on) but this passage also is very vividly clear to me, specifically in the way I have separated myself from the role of the spiritual, of the light, and of the cosmic christ in this world. By my own actions, (and non actions) I have chosen my side, and I sincerely hope that I could cross it and be one day by Mark’s side.

        I agree with you that we could never blindly figure out the actions that would save our teacher, make rules on how to act etc.. or defend the light based on physical and external deeds, that there is vital need to work on ourselves so that we build those principles in ourselves so that we are prepared for whatever befalls us in the future. I wish with my whole heart, that history does not repeat, and that those weaknesses and blinding defects, are rooted out, and replaced with the virtues of authentic justice, love and responsibility that will help guide our actions accordingly.

        • Lyvia November 30, 2016 at 4:03 pm - Reply

          Olga, you made a lot of great points here.

          The point you made regarding how we could “never blindly figure out the actions that would save our teacher, make rules on how to act etc..” seems important. Looking out for history to repeat in a particular way may distract one from seeing real issues that Belsebuub and his teachings face and how to best help in new circumstances.

          The point you made about rooting out weaknesses and replacing them with virtues is important. Love and care seem to lead one to naturally defend, protect and help.

      • Lucia November 27, 2016 at 11:46 am - Reply

        Thank you Jenny. I think what you brought up in the last paragraph is especially important – the thing about the importance of looking within to identify those traits that led us to inaction. As you said, every person was in a different level of responsibility and understanding when the events were unfolding, but every one of us who benefited from Belsebuub’s teachings had a moral responsibility to act when seeing the unfairness being done.

        I have looked back a few times, trying to recall what I was doing and thinking at those times, and while I did take part in certain actions of defence, I also realised that had I been more active internally, I could have done so much more… One special situation comes to my mind that still stands out as a very good example of this passivity and the opportunities missed. I thought I would share it, as it may be useful for some other people as well…

        At around 2012, while in California, working within a group of people still guided by the TGM members that had contact with Belsebuub, we were working on a new project to bring the astral projection to the fore of people’s attention in a very new and innovative way. The project was very exciting, but also demanded a lot of time and efforts. At that time, I was helping with it the best way I could, but in the same time, in my personal life literal disasters were happening that were causing me a lot of stress and turmoil within. I had financial problems as well, and was searching for a job.

        In all this situation, I had a casual talk one day with the 2 of the members who were also close friends of mine, and we were living in the same residential house. I asked them something about the project we were working on, and they said something along the lines that they didn’t have much time for it, as they were working on the defence from the attacks. I remember this surprised me a bit, as I thought at that time the attacks were somewhat “old” so to speak (they started in 2010), and a good website was already put up to rebuke them. A slight nudge came from within, to ask what exactly they were working on and if they needed any help… However, I didn’t act on it. Being swamped by my own problems, I thought I had “enough on my own plate” so to speak, and thought that maybe it was just something the members worked on anyway, and if they wanted my help, they would have asked… etc. Still, for a few days I was thinking of it, not sure if to offer my help or not, until at last some new circumstances happened and my attention was dragged elsewhere.

        Looking back, I can see how this was a very decisive point. Not willing to go one step beyond my level of comfort, I failed. If only those 2 friends asked for my help directly, I would say yes. But a special level of inner activity was required of me in that moment, which I didn’t recognise as important. Had I acted on that slight nudge I felt to arise from within, many things could have been different, including my personal situation, which later got very bad and was only salvaged through a lot of prayer and Divine mercy. By putting myself in-line with the Divine law, I could have gained this help much sooner, and the overall consequences in my life would have been different, not talking about how my activity could have sparked the activity of many more people that were around at the time, helping Belsebuub in a more significant way. Now the question for me is, to try and see where this ego of passivity manifests in my daily life, and identify the situations where an extra step is needed to do what is right.

        • Justin November 28, 2016 at 2:17 pm - Reply

          Thanks for sharing this Lucia. It’s a great example of a situation we all face in various ways.

          To choose a route of inaction or passivity, for whatever reason, is very easy and can seem very reasonable at the time. We can justify it in various ways and basically deceive ourselves. Meanwhile the ebb and flow of life carries on, and the issue may be forgotten, leaving us ignorant of the mistakes made and opportunities missed.

          It is very valuable you could pinpoint this moment in your life (I can see many in my own as well) where the wrong decision was made, and that you illustrated how the consequences can be tremendous both personally and for others.

        • Aleksandr November 28, 2016 at 10:02 pm - Reply

          Thank you Lucia for sharing. I too remember what was going on in my life when the attacks were taking place and the defense was underway. I can confirm that what you, Jenny, David, Layla and others say is true. There were opportunities for defense presented to people who were not members and who knew very little about the attacks. I was one of these people, and I know that, similar to Lucia, not only I passed by the opportunities that came to me directly, but I also did not make efforts to find out the extent of the attacks and if I could help.

          To this day I remember some of those ‘knocks at my door’. They bring a deep sorrow because I know that they were major mistakes that I had made. For a long time I could not understand how the mistakes could be forgiven. However, circumstances have helped me move past the sorrow of those mistakes and I feel that Belsebuub does not hold grudges. Because he does not hold grudges I feel gladness and hope. And I was glad when I read the last part of Belsebuub’s Biography and found out about the advanced stage of the work that he achieved.

          For me I think the main thing now is, like Jenny mentioned, to make sure I don’t repeat the same behaviors again. This is not easy because I can see the same weakness that harmed me then today. The difficulties and resentments after the closure of TGM are an additional burden to overcome. I believe that the opportunities to move past the mistakes that were made back then are present now and it is up to each person if he/she can move past what’s holding them back today and move forward with their inner work.

        • Mike November 30, 2016 at 4:40 am - Reply

          Thank you, Lucia, for sharing your experience in the defense and what you feel held you back.

          I don’t think I can even to use personal disasters as excuses for my actions (and I don’t mean to suggest you are blaming your circumstances, it’s just that in my case, I don’t think things were even that tough for me at the time to begin with). There was just a huge passivity and some rather childish egos at work, egos that blinded me from seeing things from a bigger picture and acting with more intelligence. I unfortunately still have those egos, but I am more aware of them and I do hope to eradicate them.

          I think one of the biggest regrets I have is my lack of love and compassion – a rather scary indifference. Mark’s teachings have truly changed my life, but I somehow felt very distanced from helping him, feeling like I just had to do a little bit here and there in defense, and that it was all part of his path, etc. It wasn’t until it was likely too late that I could understand he was suffering through this, too, and that there was a lot at stake (the whole esoteric school).

          This has been quite a productive series of discussions. Every time this topic comes up, I feel I learn more and more (and see more and more mistakes of the past).

        • Roy November 30, 2016 at 10:38 pm - Reply

          Thanks Jenny and Lucia for sharing your insights, it too helps me to see other peoples perspective and how you view and reflect on these circumstances. I can relate to the importance of looking at the causes of inaction or at the reasons for spending time on the wrong activities instead, within.

          I had a similar experience Lucia although mine relates more to putting efforts in the wrong area. In 2011 and 2012 there were a few of us helping out at the Esoteric Retreat Center. As the place was quite large, it required a lot of time to maintain it, even more so to run it well.

          Like you I could also feel that in those times I felt that taking on more was too much to handle. Instead of putting my main effort in the defense and dropping other things, I made efforts locally. I feel it was due to a lack of knowledge of the wider implications of the attacks as well as feeling somewhat removed from the struggles that Mark was going through compared to what was happening at the center. At the time I didn’t reflect enough upon the situation resulting in the choices that I made. Only later it became clear that without a “driver”, there’s no reason to have a bus and things closed down even locally.

          • Michael December 10, 2016 at 3:07 pm

            That’s a very good way of putting it Roy – “without a driver, there’s no reason to have a bus”. I can also relate to what you said about dedicating time to the wrong activities and then feeling that I couldn’t possibly take on more. But what was really needed was to step back and reflect on whether those activities should have actually been my priority in the first place.

        • Michael December 10, 2016 at 3:17 pm - Reply

          Thanks for sharing your experience Lucia. I think many of us will relate to the situation you described. It seems clear now that it was a time for individual initiative and a lot of inner asking, in order to make our actions in line with the divine law. I can also see similar situations where I fished around a bit to try and see how I could help with the defence, but didn’t make a dedicated push to find out exactly what I could do and what was most needed at the time.

      • Patricia November 27, 2016 at 3:07 pm - Reply

        Jenny your reference to Peter’s role in doubing/denouncing the Christ in the cosmic event is something I have been contemplating about as well. It’s hard to believe that knowing about the same cosmic events where the disciples of Jesus abandoned their teacher right at a time he needed them most has come into play right before our eyes and what did we do? We repeated the exact same shameful mistake.

        I think there are several lessons that can be gained from all of this.  I wholeheartedly agree with what many others are saying about acknowledging the need to contemplate and question ourselves on what these teachings truly mean to us and what prevented us internally from taking the appropriate action to better defend the teachings, the Iight, and our Teacher so that he continue with his work.  I would also add to that the consideration on how those events impacted the many others who were unaware of their existence but may have been searching for them (as with the many cases of plagiarism and commericalized spirituality that still exist out there).

        One thing that still strikes me about this whole cosmic event is the incredible power of forgiveness.  Even when I first learned about the story of Jesus, the one thing that stood out to me about him wasn’t his betrayal but the incredible sacrifice he made and his immense love for humanity. He did this by forgiving the sins, mistakes and atrocities committed against him.  The churning of the milky ocean, taking in the terrible poison of negativity that brings forth the elixir of immortality.  These great selfless acts of love and forgiveness are the ultimate lessons that will save humanity and earn us the salvation and grace of the kingdom.

      • Mike November 28, 2016 at 1:27 am - Reply

        I don’t know if there’s anything more I can add, but I definitely echo Jenny’s description of our all being “somewhere on the map of inaction.”

        To address Vadim’s point on the communication just from my experience: I wasn’t privy to the immediate knowledge of the attacks, for whatever reason, and it’s tempting for me to use that as an excuse. But even when I did know about the attacks, I can shamefully say that I didn’t do everything I could. I sat towards the back of the bus, got up every so often and maybe gently spoke in defense of the driver from mid-bus, but I didn’t help as I could and should have.

        Given my failure to step up when I had the knowledge, I don’t think I can say I would have done any better if I knew instantly of the attacks because I’d have many the same defects and lack of understanding to hold me back.

      • Michael December 10, 2016 at 2:58 pm - Reply

        Thanks Jenny – you’ve summed up the situation well. If we reflect on our own circumstances at the time, I’m sure we can each see where we were on the “map of inaction”. I agree that Peter’s role in disowning the Christ is also very worthy of reflection, as the same events have repeated and we need to acknowledge our role in this.

    • Sabah November 27, 2016 at 9:44 am - Reply

      Hi Daniel, I think what you’ve raised is a very important question to reflect upon, it’s one that I have been reflecting on too for some time. I think it’s a question that no one else can answer for us, except ourselves. One thing I feel that to get an understanding of it requires each of us to take a frank look at ourselves, our lives and what we want spiritually, and see if we really want to awaken and are prepared to do whatever it takes to achieve it. Collective action from committed and responsible individuals who take it upon themselves to do the right thing can do a lot, and could have done a lot.

      I’ve noticed that passivity is one of the main reasons that we failed to defend, and it expresses itself in a myriad of ways, from not even seeing any need to defend, expecting others will do it or tell us what to do, to doing what we feel like instead of what needs to be done. Another thing I feel is related is allowing ourselves to make excuses for our behavior, maybe feeling like we couldn’t have done much, or that others were more responsible and so it diminishes our own responsibility, rather than facing the painful truth that these excuses hide. I’ve found that facing up to this reality, however painful, can be a great relief because finally I can see things for what they are and take whatever steps I can to address and hopefully correct it if it’s not too late, or pray the opportunity appears again.

    • Justin November 28, 2016 at 3:26 pm - Reply

      Thanks Daniel for raising this question and to everyone sharing their understanding.

      What strikes me in considering this question is that identifying the physical things we could have done differently is a secondary issue. The root of the problem, as many have noted, was the inner states and the inner level we had, which determined our response or lack thereof.

      I know I felt like I was doing “all that I could” at the time. But in retrospect it is plain to see many mistakes and missed opportunities. I see a lot of interrelated inner states that at various times contributed to inaction or wrong action:

      1) Fear of personal consequences on my own life. It was much more comfortable to work safely in the background while someone else bore the brunt of risk and ridicule.

      2) Doubts and worries that made me lack the courage of my convictions and undermined my efforts at various times.

      3) Passivity/laziness; trying to avoid working on a very hard problem that didn’t have an obvious answer in favor of something easier or more pleasant.

      4) Lack of personal responsibility; seeing the issue as “someone else’s problem” rather than a problem that was truly mine. This wrong perception made me believe that “someone else” would be taking care of it or feel at times like my actions to help were some kind of charitable deed performed for “someone else’s” benefit rather than actions to fulfill a responsibility that lay squarely with me.

      5) Fear of doing the wrong thing and making things worse. This caused me to justify not doing something because “someone else” might not want me to do it. (It’s not that I should have just gone off on my own with reckless action, but I could have put forward more ideas, suggested things, asked someone…etc.)

      7) Complacency; a feeling that I was “doing enough” to satisfy the obligations I thought I had. A sense that, because I was trying to help in some capacity, it was fulfilling the requirement completely. Or that because I may have done something genuinely useful yesterday, that relieved me of my duty to act again today.

      8) Lack of care in my work, a.k.a. “ticking the box”; doing something in a superficial or perfunctory way, without true love, care, and responsibility behind it.

      9) Self-deception; a feeling that everything would turn out “all right”, that others had things in hand, that somehow things could go back to being how they were before.

      Whatever truly good and valuable things I did end up doing, it doesn’t in the least excuse my inaction or poorly done actions at other times. I realize now there is no “participation prize”, where we get a complete pass just for showing up. We are judged for every single thing we do and don’t do, good and bad.

      It’s plain that if we don’t get to the root of these problems, then we have no hope of doing better in the future, even if we intellectually realize the importance of defense.

      It would be just like the person that learns to avoid picking up coins on the street to not be a thief, but continues being dishonest in other ways. They haven’t addressed the deeper defect – just changed a superficial behavior.

      I appreciate this thread as a chance to reflect more deeply and to understand more intensively the root of these problems and to weed them out wherever they may occur.

      • Daniel M November 28, 2016 at 5:09 pm - Reply

        Thanks for your insights, Justin.

        I was recently talking to a friend and we got to the same conclusion that the physical aspects of whatever happened and could have been prevented are secondary once they’re consequences of the inner states we had at the time.

        Speaking for myself, I truly believe my inner states made me perceive things in a different light far from reality both inside and out of myself. Amazingly, I saw this all happen twice in my lifetime (different actors, different scenario, but same inner states) and I’m still not conscious enough to be able to really help.

        I think reflecting on the physicality of those events is valid and we can always learn much from it, but considering our own inner work and figuring out where we need urgent tackling and deepening is even more relevant.

        I truly believe this could all happen again involving different actors and scenario and, if I still have the same (or worse) inner states, I’ll be and act the same way or worse.

        Dan

        • Dara November 29, 2016 at 4:48 am - Reply

          Yes, very much agree with you there Dan… imagine if we had TGM back right this very instant. If we were given such a precious opportunity, what would make us act any different if new attacks started up?

          If we were compelled by the same inner states and same lack of understanding all over again, the result as you’ve pointed out, would be at the very least the same, if not even worse.

          Given how much the world has changed in the last 5-10 years, and how alternative spirituality is received with growing hostility in many places, that poses a serious problem for a new religion of the sun going out successfully. Who would spread it in the face of adversity that’s pretty much guaranteed to be there? It’s certainly going to need to be defended.

          I know in looking at myself it all comes back to the only way of changing how I would care for something precious is to change what I am inside. Definitely agree that beyond reflecting on the events that have happened, there’s a lot of heartfelt inner work needed to really get on track.

      • Ella November 29, 2016 at 9:37 am - Reply

        Thanks Justin,

        I think it would be a good exercise for me to go through those points you list and see if I can find/feel how they are relevant to my life and behaviour now. For all this sorrow over one particular event is of no use if I fail to see the same egos at play in a slightly modified situation. It’s a common thing for me to feel I’ve understood an ego and for it to just pop up in a slightly different guise, slip under my radar, and wreak havoc on my energies that way!

      • Karim El Bazi November 29, 2016 at 12:02 pm - Reply

        Thanks Justin. When reading those points I was able to see them in myself as well.

      • Steve Bunce November 29, 2016 at 2:12 pm - Reply

        Thanks Justin, that is a great outline – I could feel many of the points you described.

        Thanks Mark for sharing this story – it has been a long(!) few years since the gnostic movement closed…

        The difficult thing for me is that there was not only inaction, which failed gnosis, but also the action taken by many of us was wrong – full of fear, reaction and arrogance – even in the way it was talked about at the time. Lacking conviction, in the sense of ‘gritted determination’, but also in the heart, some of us played down the situation, or awkwardly shielded ourselves. Coldness, indifference, arrogance, and some kind of materialism in our priorities.

        I remember not long ago, I was out of my body and there was Belsebuub – and you carried (well, more pushed) me along, and then upwards with him upwards along a path faster and faster, and then as we approached the lip out – I felt in me something that made me ‘hedge my bets’ and so, even though I let go in the end, I didn’t go with you. So… on many levels – emotions, thoughts, actions – even in our speech – etc we can look at what happened through these times.

        • DavidP November 30, 2016 at 12:18 am - Reply

          Thanks for your comment Steve, hopefully we can all learn what we need to and become a stronger support than ever before for these teachings to be able to go forward out into the world.

        • Justin November 30, 2016 at 4:01 am - Reply

          Thanks for sharing that Steve. It was insightful and gives a lot I could reflect on. I can relate to what you are saying about hedging one’s bets.

        • Ella November 30, 2016 at 10:09 am - Reply

          Thanks for your honest reflections Steve, it’s all very uncomfortable to look at, but essential. Seems like we all have been through a huge learning with this event. Sounds like a powerful experience you had in that dream …

      • Olga November 29, 2016 at 4:39 pm - Reply

        Thanks very much Justin. Its not always easy to go through and admit our failings, but I think you have done a wonderful and extremely helpful job to write some of these things down.

        What I feel drawn to most in the points you have raised, is that it is an open invitation towards reflection and not judgement.

        Its interesting that many of these traits and failings did not just suddenly arise during the period of the attacks. Its hard for me to believe that some egos are just born to exist for specific events. Rather its more likely that many things were highlighted, and our true place and position in relation to lots of things surfaced. In some cases, there were serious mistakes which resulted in a spiritual school closing down and a man wrongfully attacked, and I think this draws a certain attention to what I, as an individual have in me, that I, my being, my essence, my life story, whatever have you, became affiliated with a historical failing. I cannot help but think how this reveals something extraordinary about me as a person, whatever I can see, and whatever I still have not been able to discover in relation to the work and the life that I am living.

        Another thing that comes to mind is that it seems apparent to me that those same traits you have listed, those selves, defects and weaknesses are likely still with us today, in plain sight and that is where we can find them. So if I want to be a more caring, loving, responsible person, I cannot only rely on those isolated periods in my life where I may have failed, but to also develop virtues in the most basic places, in the hours of my life, with renewed sincerity to never make the same mistakes again. To be honest, I can find many areas in my life where I carry all those points in your list. This in itself provokes in me a sense of urgency and interest to pave the way towards a different way of being all together. Hopefully a life that can be stripped down from all complacency and self-deception, so that an honest and deep-penetrating approach can be made.

        Again, thank you for this thread Justin and others, as everything has really been a wonderful reminder for reflection, introspection and call to action.

        • Justin November 30, 2016 at 5:08 am - Reply

          Another thing that comes to mind is that it seems apparent to me that those same traits you have listed, those selves, defects and weaknesses are likely still with us today, in plain sight and that is where we can find them.

          That is what I was also reflecting on as I wrote those things. I could not say I have eliminated all those weaknesses, and so I could not truly say I would not repeat the same mistakes again, even though I have recognized the errors and I am deeply sorry for them, for the unnecessary suffering, and for all that has been lost as a result.

          Maybe I have learned about the need to defend, but those actions could just be like the person who learns to avoid picking up the coin. It is a worthy action, but I could easily go on to make a similar mistake in a different scenario when I don’t recognize that external need and allow that weakness to express itself. And so I haven’t really changed, and on it goes.

          I certainly realize more and more how those defects can influence every aspect of my life, even when I think otherwise. The urgency I see is to correct them now, as you mentioned, in the mundane and trivial scenarios of life, so that I can possess the consciousness to act correctly during the big and decisive times.

        • Michael December 10, 2016 at 3:41 pm - Reply

          Thanks for those reflections Olga – it’s clear that we need to look at what’s happening within us right now, in order to avoid repeating the mistakes of the past over and over again.

          One thing that particularly stood out to me was the reference you made to making “a historical failing”. The Biblical accounts we may read of the crowds mocking and disowning Jesus, while favouring a criminal over him have now become historical documents of events that occurred over two thousand years ago. So it’s thought-provoking to think of the role we each played in shaping modern history, as a result of our own actions and inaction. It’s possible that some of us were even around at the time of Jesus in our past lives and played similar roles in going along with the crowd and disowning the Christ.

          At least we can be thankful that despite the many “historical failings” we have each accumulated over many lifetimes, we have been given another chance in this life to put things right.

      • Patricia November 29, 2016 at 5:52 pm - Reply

        Thanks for writing this Justin. That was a great summarization of a lot of the same issues that I was experiencing too and some points that I probably missed because I wasn’t paying closer attention to them.

        I can see how the same problems manifest in the smallest ways in day-to-day life and just how important it is for me to tackle them as soon as I’m aware of them so that I get the practice and gain the understanding that’s needed for me to be better prepared to deal with the heftier ones that may soon follow.

      • Aleksandr November 30, 2016 at 6:29 pm - Reply

        Belsebuub has said a fair bit about passivity. I looked up some relevant quotes from his writings am pasting them below. I find the picture they paint is very similar to what has happened and there is advice on what to do about it.

        “When one’s priorities are elsewhere than living a spiritual life, and when someone feeds energies, emotions, and thoughts that are low in nature, even though they may be pleasurable, then spiritual feelings get suppressed. When they are suppressed there is inevitably spiritual passivity, because the essence itself is passive and needs to be made active with awareness and other exercises. And if someone is feeding negativity, there won’t be the strength or the willingness to feed spiritual things – in fact they will feel like something you don’t want to do.”

        ~https://belsebuub.com/articles/depression-and-feeling-down-from-a-spiritual-point-of-view

        “If you simply want to receive spiritual knowledge and do nothing with it, you will receive it in isolation, and the supply will be cut off. And when nutrients and nourishment are cut off from something in nature it dies out, and that is exactly what happens with spirituality. So it’s worth looking at what you can do to help others to progress spiritually, and to be part of the whole. In that way you’re going to get help spiritually too, and this is how to move forward.”

        and later on in the article

        “The Conscience?
        The conscience, yes. It gives a feeling like you should do something, it’s like you’re searching and longing for something – that’s usually as much as the essence can do. You have to make an effort such as being aware for it to be active. If you don’t make the effort, your conscience can nag you, making you feel as though you should be doing something spiritual. The essence also gives care and works as love within. The feeling of knowing you should have done something and didn’t do it is the conscience working within. It pushes you to look for spiritual things, but if you don’t act upon it, you will gain nothing.”

        ~https://belsebuub.com/articles/it-is-in-giving-spiritually-that-we-receive-spiritually

        “A true seeker of wisdom is not a passive smiling bystander but a revolutionary warrior of light.”

        and

        “They (religious practitioners) can fanatically defend the teachings and figures they hold dear while attacking those who appear to contradict or threaten them. Love is the opposite of this and so too is the study of spiritual knowledge.”

        ~https://belsebuub.com/articles/finding-esoteric-wisdom

        • Michael December 10, 2016 at 3:59 pm - Reply

          Thanks for sharing those quotes Alex – they are each very relevant to what we have been discussing in this thread.

      • Christos November 30, 2016 at 7:55 pm - Reply

        Thanks for these insights Justin. They really put things into perspective. It’s good to have all these points so clearly listed.

        Something else I noticed was the reason that there was passivity on my behalf was a mechanical way of doing things and a certain selfishness. I can see myself falling in a routine many times even in things that I consider “spiritual”. When TGM closed things changed quite a bit in my life since my routine of going to the center, doing my practices and meeting with other like-minded people stopped abruptly. In me there was this sudden turmoil and I tried to fight any attempts that went against that “routine”. Although there was a genuine concern that my right to practice spirituality was suppressed unfairly there was also this new way of having to do things that made it difficult to adapt.

        It is amazing though that people in general can make a routine and get used to anything. There are many examples of suppressed societies where people react in the beginning but then conform to the suppressor. As soon as a routine is found to carry on with one’s life then comfort kicks in and unwillingness to change the established way of life unless maybe that is given to us with minimal effort. And it becomes worse when some people have something to gain out of this suppression. Then sometimes without even knowing people might resist any rebellion against suppression. Many rebellions in the past have managed to be suppressed due to resistance from insiders.

        Even in dreams I just go along with what the subconscious and any entities bring to me. Even if they take me to hell I just follow fast asleep and then have nightmares. I can easily blame the negative entities but why don’t I just wake up sing the Belilin and get out of there? It is hard to wake up and do a “reality check”. Why would it be any different in the physical? If I can be in a terrible dark spot, tortured and scared and I am not able to just get out of there why would I try to get out of terrible situations like the suppression of my right to do what I want in life? It just shows to me that there are little things in life that I just don’t want to overcome which bring all these terrible situations in life and in dreams.

        • Michael December 10, 2016 at 4:05 pm - Reply

          That’s an interesting point Christos – that even being suppressed can become comfortable and familiar, once it becomes routine.

      • Roy December 1, 2016 at 6:44 pm - Reply

        Thanks Justin for this detailed breakdown of points that you saw contributed to inaction or wrong actions. I too can relate to many of them and as others already have pointed out, in daily life we have the opportunity to understand and deal with them, so when the need to defend comes up again, we find ourselves in a better place.

        Recently, I was reading through the history of The Gnostic Movement site which highlights the bystander effect. Something I could very much relate to. Reading about it and knowing this is within me, helps to be on the watch for it whatever the circumstances may be. The below paragraph is taken from <a href="http://historyofthegnosticmovement.com/opposition-to-the-gnostic-movement-and-belsebuub-via-anti-cult-movement/#Opposition_to_Spirituality " target="_blank"HoTGM. with the link leading to the wiki article that goes into more depth on the topic.

        The lack of action by the majority of members and participants in The Gnostic Movement could well be put down to the “Bystander Effect” in that many people observed what was happening, knowing it was wrong and that The Gnostic Movement and Pritchard were being falsely accused, even from their own firsthand involvement in situations that were being falsely portrayed, yet felt little or no sense of responsibility to do anything about it due to the presence of many other bystanders—some with more responsibility in the organization than them.

        • Michael December 10, 2016 at 4:08 pm - Reply

          Yes, thanks for posting that article Roy – it’s worth reading and reflecting on.

      • Karim December 8, 2016 at 1:43 pm - Reply

        I also found it beneficial that this topic was brought up again, thanks everyone for giving your input. I started retrospecting and looking into ego’s related to that situation in meditation practices. Two strands in particular. One, the passivity that is mentioned and for me the question of lack of earlier more dedicated involvement in the teachings where I could’ve, the inner choice that lead to it. It brought me into looking back over my whole earlier life and seeing the attachment to lower emotions, such as media entertainment, how it held me back, and weakened me, from shifting my centre of gravity. But I feel there’s still more depth to it to investigate.

        The other strand, as I mentioned in another post, is the wrong fear-embedded mindset of coming out for what I believe in and who I am. The last few weeks have been revealing as I’ve been taken aback to see it still having a part in so much of my interactions and ways of behaviour. Linking to the inherent social fears and program of nature. It kind of opened the lid. I want to work to see and change this, it’ll be a whole study though. But I think it will also be very liberating and enabling.

        On another note. Sometimes I pick up the sense of the unfathomable and almost dauntingly important opportunity in front of me now. This helps me to become more serious in my inner work and helps to sacrifice old ways and the ego blockages.

        • Ella December 9, 2016 at 9:17 am - Reply

          “Sometimes I pick up the sense of the unfathomable and almost dauntingly important opportunity in front of me now. This helps me to become more serious in my inner work and helps to sacrifice old ways and the ego blockages.”

          I can relate. Reading both The Path of the Spiritual Sun and the Belsebuub Biography has sent shock waves through me, that mean I’ve also felt more able to ‘pick up the sense’ that you talk of. But I find it hard to 1) not have this urgency hijacked by fear, 2) maintain it – it so easily slips away under the weight of ‘Maya’ and 3) transform it into practical action.

          I hope that the way to use this heightened perception (stemming from the new teachings of Belsebuub) for the spiritual work lies in tackling these things.

      • Michael December 10, 2016 at 3:04 pm - Reply

        Thanks for those reflections Justin. I think you have summarised very well many of the issues that affected us both individually and as a group. You also made a good point when you said “I realize now there is no ‘participation prize’, where we get a complete pass just for showing up. We are judged for every single thing we do and don’t do, good and bad”.

  30. Mike November 25, 2016 at 6:54 am - Reply

    Wow. That is incredible. It’s past my bedtime 🙂 but when I started reading the update, and planned only to read the first third or so, I couldn’t stop.

    Truly, I am happy for Mark’s amazing accomplishments in the path to liberation. The immense dedication and many sacrifices he has made have been rewarded. It is deeply inspiring to hear of these highly advanced esoteric things and hearing the human experience of it, as related through Mark’s own words, is very beautiful and a real privilege.

    I have to admit, I was blown away by the notion that further integration with the Monad takes place through yet more advanced stages of the work *after* the third mountain. I recall reading from Rabolu that knowledge is infinite, but I hadn’t conceived of it quite like that, that there is more work to do (perhaps infinitely more?), even more tests perhaps, to fully integrate with the divine. The analogy of the atoms and the fractal nature of the universe helped a lot, but my limited intellectual perspective of enlightenment has just been shattered 🙂

    Thank you very much for posting this update. What a remarkable journey!

    • Steve November 25, 2016 at 12:11 pm - Reply

      hmm, maybe this is this like the scale that gurdjieff talks about? So completing the 3rd mountain is completing the work as a human (eg organic life), but then we do the work on the level of a planet, then solar system, sun, all suns etc. So we ultimately do the work as the absolute itself? Like, within us is many cells, and so we do the work as a human and it affects all those cells, then we do the work as a planet and it effects all organic life, etc etc until we do the work as the absolute itself and it is a full breath of the universe…?

      • Mike November 25, 2016 at 5:19 pm - Reply

        I vaguely remember Gurdjieff’s talking on the scales and I didn’t really understand it. At the very least, it seems to make sense that after completing a scale, we can go on to the next and so on… maybe that is a more global work. Seeing as the initiations, especially the betrayal, from mountain to mountain, have a more and more widespread effect from one to the next, maybe that same idea applies to the spiritual work one is carrying out.

        At the very least, this makes for an excellent koan for meditation!

        • Steve November 27, 2016 at 9:41 am - Reply

          Great idea… of course my comment just came out of my mind, but definitely something much better meditated upon!!

  31. richard spencer November 25, 2016 at 6:41 am - Reply

    This is fantastic news that Mark has overcome all adversity to reach the stage he has reached, a good win for the light : ), makes me think there may still be a chance??

    I really look forward to Mark bringing back this pure and real ancient religion, I hope that many of us can move froward towards the light and help with these forces to counter act the darkness and hopefully inspiring others to take up this great work

  32. Daniel M November 25, 2016 at 1:57 am - Reply

    Thank you so much for posting this new biography page!
    What to say?! While reading, I was shocked to realize how deep an illusion I live in – how far from Home I really am…
    I can only thank you, Mark and Angela, for bringing such profound teachings to us.

  33. Vadim November 25, 2016 at 12:21 am - Reply

    Well, thank you so much for sharing all that…Mark, your story sounds very bizarre, yet somehow, makes so much sense to me as it resonates with certain things which I was shown and experienced. It just feels wonderful to be a part of this great school of life and keep learning. All the best to you to move as much as you possibly can in this remarkable spiritual journey!!!

  34. Aleksandr November 24, 2016 at 9:49 pm - Reply

    It is incredible what Mark has done. It is amazing to see seemingly an ordinary person do the work in front of my eyes. It brings the work to humanity.

    I am very grateful to be here and learn from Mark’s journey, and I hope to be able to carry out my role and help the religion of the sun to flourish on Earth once again.

  35. Seraphim November 24, 2016 at 8:35 pm - Reply

    Amazing news. I can’t wait to read it

    I liked very much the last words: “making it humanity’s first and last religion…religion in its purest form”

    Amen

  36. john p November 24, 2016 at 8:34 pm - Reply

    Reading Belsebuub’s journey is always very special, and I feel very fortunate to have access to such knowledgeable information.

    I normally don’t like to speak publicly about my personal spiritual experiences but today I feel that there is a need to share this information. My verification of these great teachings and in particular Belsebuub began around 2002, after meeting Belsebuub. This is when I started to receive information from the Spiritual world and then I would hear it from Belsebuub in the physical. More recently, I was told that Belsebuub was staying back after he merges with his Being and that he will be in charge of the end of the current human race. At the time, I shared this information with my nephew and another close friend with the hope that they will be inspired to work harder and achieve the standards required to help Belsebuub with his mission.

    Today I’d like to share it with others, and I hope many of us will work harder to achieve a true understanding to help Belsebuub at the forefront.

    • Patricia November 25, 2016 at 2:47 pm - Reply

      John I had a similar experience where I had a vivid symbolic dream some time ago that confirmed what Mark had said about his task at the end of times. I have it recorded.

      • john p November 26, 2016 at 9:10 am - Reply

        Hello Patricia.

        I was hoping that others may have something to share on this topic from their own experiences. Thank you for sharing.

        It would be magic to see many of us stand firm alongside Belsebuub and correct mistakes of the past.

        • David November 27, 2016 at 4:21 pm - Reply

          Hey John and Patricia,

          Thankyou very much for sharing those experiences.

    • chris scott November 26, 2016 at 12:44 am - Reply

      While searching for the truth about life I’ve always needed proof since I didn’t want to follow anyone blindly. Thankfully for me these teachings have given me the proof that I needed and I’m so grateful for this.

      A big example of this proof is mentioned by my uncle in his comment. A while back i asked my uncle about the end of time since I was starting to feel that it was getting closer. He gave me some general information for a prophecy which circulated among Gnostics but he also shared his own spiritual experiences about this topic. He mentioned that he had no physical proof of this information. He also said that he’d never heard this information from anyone in the physical world. He then revealed that Beings in the internal worlds had told him that Belsebuub will be in charge of humanity in a time of great darkness when the end arrives for this current human race. I also know that he held back on information from these experiences. To now read this information from Belsebuub is such an amazing proof for me, and it gives me so much faith and respect for Belsebuub.
      Having been helped to get proofs is so special to me and thanks to the guidance that I’ve received, I understand that I’m not special and it’s Divine mercy. I’ve also come to understand that I’m so fortunate to be here and I feel the strength to push forward with my inner work. Egos of doubt can not stay in my temple and confuse me about The Path.

      Hopefully we can all make a bigger effort to help Belsebuub with his mission and help anyone who is searching to go back to their Father.

    • Aleksandr November 28, 2016 at 10:14 pm - Reply

      Thank you John for sharing this. Although I cannot comprehend what this means in reality I too hope to have the strength to help Belsebuub and Humanity as best I can. My feeling on how to do this is to find the strength to help with the areas that need help today.

      • john p November 29, 2016 at 7:48 am - Reply

        Hi Aleksandr,

        I can’t believe how many years have gone past since we met at the Bunya Mountain retreat, and I still remember our nice chat on our way home.

        Wishing you all the strength and courage with your inner work and I hope to catch up one day in the future.

        • Aleksandr December 18, 2016 at 8:40 pm - Reply

          Thank you John, I wish you the same and a wonderful solstice too.

    • Ella November 29, 2016 at 9:45 am - Reply

      Thank you John for sharing this. It is something that I have felt forming intuitively recently. For a long time I’ve tried to face the message that we’ve had from the Masters, and Belsebuub, that the end of time is approaching. But I haven’t wanted to – it brings up so much fear. But my dreams have continued to show things, and the message between the lines of The Path of the Spiritual Sun seemed to be exactly what you say.

      My mind wants answers and reassurance; my egos want me to despair; but there is a glimmer of hope and an inner force that pushes me on. If ever there was clear motivation to put everything else aside in life and to focus whole heartedly on awakening and healing the light – we’ve been gifted it now.

      • john perez December 1, 2016 at 7:26 pm - Reply

        Hello Ella, I really hope that we can all learn from our past and daily mistakes and walk forward without the chains of this material world.

        I wish you and everyone lots of inner strength to find your way and thanks for your valuable input.

  37. chris scott November 24, 2016 at 7:58 pm - Reply

    Wow! What an amazing series of events that mark has gone through, to reach this stage of the path. I have always been curious as to what happens after the completion of the third mountain. To now have this knowledge passed onto us publicly is so special!

    It gives me great strength to know we have such guidance and support, From mark in the physical and the infinite light within 🙂

    Thankyou so much for sharing and for all you have sacrifice for humanity.

    • Michael December 10, 2016 at 4:33 pm - Reply

      Thanks for sharing those experiences John, Patricia and Chris. It’s clear how urgent it is to use the limited time we have in this world in the best way we can, as it may well be our last and only chance to work towards the awakening and to free ourselves from the blind suffering of human existence.

      • john perez December 11, 2016 at 12:17 am - Reply

        I wanted to share a section from The Path of the Spiritual Sun by Belsebuub which is on page 46, it’s called “THE ARRIVAL OF THE WISDOM BRINGER”. It’s certainly deserves deep attention.
        Below is the opening paragraph, enjoy!.
        “In many ancient texts and ancestral histories there is a wisdom bringer who is divinely appointed to re-established civilization after a flood. Thoth of Egypt, Manu of Hindus, Viracocha of the Incas, have been described as wisdom bringers who traveled by boat carrying the knowledge to initiate a new new civilazation based on spiritual principles”.

        • Martin December 11, 2016 at 5:57 am - Reply

          Cheers John, that’s a great book!

        • Ella December 11, 2016 at 9:04 am - Reply

          Thank you John for bringing this to our attention. I just re-read it hoping to glean something new or to get a fresh insight into what it really means; as you say, it deserves deep attention. To ignore the parallels between what’s written and what we have in front of us seems foolish, but also very easy to do. But what to do?

        • Paty December 11, 2016 at 11:51 am - Reply

          Thank you John.

        • john perez December 11, 2016 at 12:14 pm - Reply

          Sorry all it’s page 48 not 46.

  38. DavidP November 24, 2016 at 2:17 pm - Reply

    Its so amazing to read about all of this especially the experiences in this latest update, how amazing was it then to live it. Thanks for sharing so much with us Mark. It has been so awe inspiring and provided great opportunities to pause and reflect and see mistakes I’ve made which unfortunately are still affecting things now but I hope that they can be put right. I hope that whilst you’ve reached the ascension internally that similarly these teachings and the religion of the ancient spirituality of the sun can rise once again in this world.

    It’s incredible to think that to get through all that struggle of the 3 mountains is just to graduate from spiritual kindergarten in the school of life. It makes sense though if wisdom is indeed infinite.

    So the purpose of creation isn’t just to return awakened to the Absolute but to keep going beyond the Absolute? Perhaps the fractal keeps extending out beyond the Absolute to many Absolutes?
    Or is it that to reach the Absolute requires a lot more than the first 3 mountains?

  39. Cliff November 24, 2016 at 1:41 pm - Reply

    I don’t know what to say so monumental is the work that Mark has completed.

    I am in awe of what he has done, having risen against such tremendous opposition and feel so privileged to be in a position to witness the rebirth of the religion of the sun. I only hope and pray that all of us who read of Marks achievements are able to overcome our excuses and forgetfulness and manifest what he has brought us with so much pain and suffering.

    • Lucia November 24, 2016 at 2:01 pm - Reply

      I totally share your sentiments Cliff. Belsebuub brought so much Light into this dark world, clarified everything one needs in order to reach the Light themselves. Now the ball is in our court…

    • Paty November 25, 2016 at 1:47 am - Reply

      That is beautifully put Cliff. Thank you. I share your thoughts.

    • Daniel M November 25, 2016 at 4:12 am - Reply

      I totally agree with you, Cliff !

    • Martin November 26, 2016 at 6:35 am - Reply

      Agreed Cliff.

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