A look at how inner states, particularly the egos, affect the ways we view the world around us and, how they affect the lives of those we live with, or regularly come into contact with.
By changing within, we break some of our own contributions to the negativity that may exist in relationships with other people, and it’s important to look at how we relate to others, making clear and intelligent assessments of our own deficiencies and doing what we can to change for the better.
These are answers to questions in the second Q&A session. This was filmed in November 2009.
Very nice and useful this talk.
I liked very much this part about the limits of others, so we shouldn’t push the others beyond their limits.
Thank you, Lara, for sharing this video
What a wonderful talk and very applicable to what happened today. When there is a confrontation in the family whatever the cause, in my case a misunderstanding of what was said, it is so easy to turn negative and blame the other, while at the same time I’m contributing to a harmful environment. Things got heated which ended our conversation. At least that gave us both some time to take a step back. For me that was a great opportunity to get clear again and learn about the horrible negative feeling that was inside. I could see the mind quickly drawing conclusions and if not kept in check is followed by these lower feelings and a justification to reinforce the way I’m thinking and feeling. Later we talked over what happened. It helped me to not give in to earlier feelings, while as they were coming up again in our discussion, it was easier to stay focused and try to resolve things instead of going of on a tangent. At the end we both saw our mistakes, which was really a silly little thing. I’m glad we did talk it through as it would have left a negative impact on our relationship if left unresolved for longer. If that wasn’t possible, I’m glad to at least have the techniques to learn about and remove this negativity to at least reduce my share.
I’ve just spend about 5 days travelling with my dear family member and it was so interesting, important, and often challenging to try seeing my egos, her egos, the egos of people around us, as well as situations, and act consciously, no matter what.
When we came back home, it was wonderful listening to this talk…
If we are the ones who received the teachings – then we are responsible to do our best in removing our negativity and selfishness and help others. There are limits to things, but usually we tend to do less than possible, and our limits can be changed…What we have within is limitless.
Thank you so much for kindly sharing with us your knowledge and guidance! This talk was so simple yet profound.
Thank you Belsebuub, this is so important.
This information is so simple, and yet so rare. The thing about people having their limits is sometimes sad, because a person can unwittingly sacrifice a relationship without even knowing it, and have all the negativity built up on their side. That’s sad when it happens, but I suppose it’s better than all out war and hostility :)
Thank you, this is such an important and recurring issue in my life, and i guess in the life of many people. I noticed it is indeed very easy to create ideas about how things, or people should be, following a personal understanding we may have, and then try to impose it on other people, or feeling disheartened when seeing such negativity around us. Whereas yes, at the same time there are inner states that are very ugly, and they are inside, and we should be looking at them i guess, and changing them. Thanks for stressing how important that is…
The content very relevant for self and others, not only of relationships and dynamics within a family but for larger communities and groups that see themselves as a family. I hear how Belsebuub talks about the way we conduct ourselves and how that influences those around us and vice versa. It also makes sense to work upon ourselves in order to change dynamics, to influence change in others, to shift the dynamics and interplay of egos in ways that are driven by compassion, care, kindness rather than anger, pride or other vices/egos.
Thanks Belsebuub what you say really makes a lot of sense I can relate to the way you said forcing your will on someone, something to really observe and to make in roads on to change
Such an amazing talk Belsebuub and such wonderful and helpful words of genuine caring love for the good of everyone.
It’s quite powerful to experience the impact that has between two people, I just can’t fathom how incredible it would be to experience this multiplied over and over again in a society, a country and humanity overall as a family. I see that could have been possible in ancient times but today the world has been won over by the egos.
But your powerful words echo hope for anyone that wants to break free of the hatred and negativity that has consumed the world and who wants to experience true love and understanding within them. And I pray for those that seek the peace within their own hearts that they have the inner strength to take up the wisdom that you have brought forth and pull themselves out of this sinking ship, because all that you teach is truly effective and real and it just takes that willing and effort to sacrifice the darkness in ourselves for the light to grow.
Personally i wanted to mention that I’ve found that low states are ones that are very detrimental to the happiness of myself and in all my relationships. I find they are the ones which are tyrannical in the family unit and they want to bring everything down to their low vibration. Those egos are very cunning because they appear as a victim but at the right opportunity they will gladly seek one-up-manship over others, happy at other’s set backs or mistakes and they actually gain gladness over the oppression of others in the family once they get others to the same low state. I think low states and negativity towards oneself is a vicious aspect of pride that will lash out in the opposite way as soon as it can. There is nothing good in feeling low, but the hypnotic effect of those states are very powerful over a person and its only if and when you can step back and see what those egos are actually doing inside and see the incredible manipulating way and harm they bring upon others that you can begin to see the working of these cruel states. I now know that low states internally and expressed externally are very much against my own happiness and that of other people, and though I wouldn’t have thought I enjoyed low states when I tried seeking hope and love, I saw that I liked being in those lower states.
I have found mantras help to lift up my vibration enough to come out of its strong hypnotic state and to begin to see things a bit more clearly but the self serving low states have many expressions during the day and getting to the know the ego is difficult when it has been the way you have lived your life through it, and its very difficult to see its true nature until I tried to look for the harm it was causing. I mention these low states because I’ve seen how detrimental, manipulating and how vicious they can be in myself and my life and how they have truly robbed me of the experience of real happiness internally and robbed the happiness in all my relationships with my family, and robbed them of their happiness as its wanted to pull them down too. The fact that these low states always pivot our thoughts and emotions to a woe is me, to appear as a victim, to feelings of sadness and constant thought about ones’ self, is really the wolf in sheep clothing, and it really is such a harmful state and keeps us locked in darkness.
Thank you Belsebuub for all that you have taught, its so helpful to hear you speak and read your living words – they really breath life. light and hope where there was only darkness..
Thankyou layla for your reply, i too have been greatly effected by the hypnotic effects of the egos and continue to struggle against them. Fortunately thou we have found the teachings of belsebuub and have the opportunity to use the tools given, to make a big change in our lives.
I feel such sadness when i see some family members and others around me that experience massive ego states but have no tools to deal with it. Hopefully we can live by example, in hope to inspire others around us to connect with their own divine parents.
Thanks for raising these points Layla
Thank you Layla, I wish you all the strength and true happiness.
Thanks for your kindness and reply John, Martin and Chris.
I wish you and everyone here much strength in heart and will to fight for happiness personally and for the sake of those we share our lives with.
Thank you so much for sharing your experience of these inner states Layla, it’s been really helpful to read. I have seen the same dominating and ‘poor me’ game at play with the egos specific to close relationships. Seems the self-pity helps us justify the struggle for power. Recently I’ve been able to break free of the cycle to feel what my closest relationships can be like without them, or I had help from the divine to see what was possible. It was an absolute breath of fresh air and made me realise the horror of the constant power games that can go on in a family, and boost my will to banish them from my home. Reading your post has added some depth to my intellectual understanding, thank you again and I wish you all the best with your work to free yourself from these lower states!
What you say about it being how you’ve ‘always lived’ really strikes a chord; it’s so sad to feel how I repeat the behavioral patterns I grew up exposed to, and how those are just formed methods of coping with the egos my parents were exposed to, and on and on and on …. only the light can lift us out of such an unconscious mess and break the cycle.
I found this talk particularly inspiring as it outlines the importance of taking a selfless approach to spirituality by considering others. Thank you.
I was taken back by this talk and loved every moment.
Hearing esoteric knowledge uncovered from true experience is felt deep within and this connection/emotions is beyond words.
Always very thankful.