In this response to a question Belsebuub talks about how there is an unseen war between the forces of light and those of darkness.
In other works of his Belsebuub explains that there are real multidimensional negative entities that exist in the lower regions of the fifth dimension. Everything exists multidimensionally and they affect people by affecting us in the fifth dimension, which is the dimension of dreams and the astral plane, where out-of-body and near-death experiences happen.
Tales of demons exist in legends, mythology and religions, but they are frequently encountered by people today in dreams and out-of-body experiences.
Belsebuub has also seen demons in his own out-body-experiences and he says:
“Demons function in a hierarchy of beings of darkness and exist as part of the substance of darkness, which has to exist in creation, as it’s the mixture of light and darkness that gives form and enables existence, without darkness we would see nothing, as we see nothing in light alone. It’s the mixture of light and darkness that enables us to learn and be tested, which is what we are here to do.
In this solar system demons and dark forces gravitate around the earth, the interior earth is the center of the beings of darkness, at the point of infinity, sometimes known in esoteric spheres as the seat of Satan. This is where the giant temple of demons is, which I’ve visited while out of my body. The solar system forms a boundary, which is effectively a prison for the beings of darkness.
Darkness is a substance and it’s possible to awaken in light or in darkness. Demons have awakened in darkness and they constantly work to drag humanity downwards and to stop anyone from awakening in light.”
This is the third of the questions and answers from the talk ‘Human and Demonic Darkness’ at a retreat in Oregon, USA, by Belsebuub in 2009.
Thank you for all your wisdom Belsebuub, until this day Bellilin and Jupiter have helped me out of many Astral Attacks. Is there hope for these Demons to one day see the light? And if so, how can they be helped?
Having read many of the articles, blogs, and comments on this site, aside from being intrigued, I slowly became concerned having recognized a noticeable absence of some rather crucial information. Much is made, with a remarkable degree of certainty, of the notion of “Awakening” in either darkness or light and how to go about doing so. All of this is interesting and relatively familiar and harmless in my view, yet there are topics discussed, again with a degree of confidence and certainly that I’m certain is in error and can lead to harm, both mental and spiritual. The “dark”/”negative”/”evil” extra dimensional entities that are being spoken of, and if accounts are to be believed, interacted with, pose a much, much greater danger than can be imagined. To the novice, these beings are indeed “dimensional”, in that they exist in the spiritual realm. This spiritual reality is not a “free-for-all” for OBE or TM “day-trippers”, nor is it a realm accessable to the living without making dangerous spiritual concessions to the very adversaries you want to avoid. You see, as mentioned in articles on this site, there IS a heriarchy, a structure, dominions, laws, rules and as a fallen human spiritual being YOU are not immune from these laws of the spirit realm. First off, these malevolent beings are indeed demons, spiritual entities that have legally binding spiritual dominion over you, both in the physical, waking world and outside accepting the only means of spiritual, eternal redemption, the spiritual realm you may seem to enter and explore. You are NOT an “equal”, nor are you “coeval” with them, they are an incomprehensibly advanced creation of God that have indeed made their eternal choice. As it is written that God spared not the Angels when they sinned, when mankind followed the evil one, WE, as in all of us, shared their sentence. All this OBE and TM nonsense is nothing more than playing a deadly serious game, and allowing very, very nasty things into your life that are not going to go away once you’ve “found yourself” through esoteric or occult study and decide to return to your life as it was. You, on your own, have NO authority to expell these beasts from your life,…and they know this. At the very top, the Pinnacle of the pyramid, Lucifer knows this too. He’s a very, very strict legalist, after all the very name “Satan” means accuser. Accusing humanity before God, done in microcosm in the story of Job. The bottom line is, no matter what any occult based guru teaching “light-love” garbage says, neither he, you or I make the rules,… PERIOD. None of us created the universe and all that it encompasses, yet that doesn’t stop us from incessantly pretending that we’ve got a hell of a lot more “say-so” than we in actuality do. There is only one way to be saved from sharing the same fate as the dynamic, ancient, evil hatred of an unbelievable intensity, and it is only through accepting the sacrifice of Jesus Christ, God made flesh, entering His own creation to serve as the spiritually legal sacrifice, as there is no forgiveness of sin without the shedding of blood, which He did,..for you and me,…and even this guy talking nonsense about aliens. Lucifer knew that when man sinned, man’s God given dominion over the earth was forfeit, and by default Lucifer became the defacto “god of this world” and all of us under him. Jesus is the only way, the only “veritas” you need to seek.
Hi Brian, Thanks for your comments.
Jaqueline’s comments about the recitations are simply two prayers that are made to expel negative entities, but it is not us who does it. For example one is another name for the Father, and so we’re simply asking for him to deal with it. Many of us also recite the ‘Lord’s Prayer’ (/Our Father) to great results.
I think it fair to say that quite a number of people here would vouch for not only the existence of the other dimensions, but also the existence of both positive and negative entities from first hand experience; In just the same way that I would not be able to describe to you an apple and then say that it’s called an orange — because you know the difference. I think it fair to state that there is a marked difference between reading and talking about spiritual matters and experiencing them: about learning how consciousness and the subconsciousness works, how prayers to the Mother and the Father are immediately answered, and how some experiences in the Astral can be directly checked here in the physical after waking up, and how liberating the death of the Egos is (which Christians typically call ‘Dying to Sin’), and many other aspects.
I would suggest that none here are opposed to the teachings of the living Christ, and would also suggest reading the Path of the Spiritual Sun, as it may just help you embrace a wider context to spirituality as a whole, which should only deepen your faith.
Finally, to answer Jaqueline’s question: considering how I cannot persuade anyone in my family to “see the light”, I daresay that it would be a great accomplishment to do so with a demon (but only a spiritual being would probably have any chance of doing so)! Don’t forget, Matthew 4:17 which says, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand”. All of Jesus’ actions showed how he dealt with everyone, equally, except those Pharisees who thought better than him.
Hi Brian,
Going into the astral plane is something everyone does every night when we go to sleep but we all wake up again in morning like normal, there is nothing dangerous about it.
No doubt the demons have a huge grip on this world but there is also protection given from the divine according to whatever laws govern that I suppose. Without that protection none of this world would still exist anymore, someone would blown it all up by now.
The forces of light and darkness are definitely not something to be taken lightly.
But from my experience these forces exist in the physical world just as much as they do in the astral world, (dreams and OBEs), since such entities are multi-dimentional. By this I mean that physically, there can be an influence on a person’s moods, thoughts, negativity, interactions etc… which can be stirred up by negative forces and beings and cause unpleasant repercussion that personally I feel are more concerning than a fright in the astral.
So by avoiding conscious astral experiences in hopes of not coming across a negative entity will not bring an end to the existence or influence of negative beings. However as Jacqueline mentioned those words have a power to dispel negative beings, but it will not eradicate them, as they too have a purpose in creation. But they are tools for protection should someone come across a negative being. While I have experienced a lot of attacks from negative beings, it has never been so much as I would consider it to be a stoppage to my inner work.
Becoming a force of light yourself will also help to overcome the influence of negative beings, as such beings attack a person based on their weakness, by working inwardly to overcome your own weaknesses you are already better prepared when facing any kind of opposition.
In the end, the battle between light and darkness is a platform for gaining knowledge.
Brian,
Belsebuub presents his teachings alongside all of the information that a person would need to verify them in his website, books,and courses. In addition, he share a tremendous amount of information, which one can find in his online biographies, about who he is and how he has come to know what he teaches.
I agree brother
I am not aware of the severity of the situation but feel that this talk has given me a bit more understanding of what is really going on. It is very difficult to get out of the darkness and these kinds of talks add to the strength and guidance that we all need in order to move forward. Thanx!
What I like a lot at these Belsebuub’s talks and also at this one, is that he is describing the pure, clear and authentic reality (that I haven’t verified) .
And that at this description, there is a simplicity and balance. So, (with my words) there is a tragedy going on but on the other hand, there are also these hidden treasures that someone can find. There are demons and are holding humanity but they have limitations and light exist and the power of the essence is enough for someone to start with the inner Work. And so on.
Of course, all of these with the demons, the state of humanity etc is a perfect excuse for someone to give up or do less or nothing ever, but it’s personal and how someone feels with all of these. Revolutionary essences or passive, I don’t know but Belsebuub is more than clear on his messages. Like a “take it or leave it” thing.
Thanks for posting it! It’s like a glimpse that stays for a while before it gets forgotten or fades out, which is better to be used in order to create something before that happen.
I add to Alex’s thanksgivings as well :)
Fotis,
I enjoyed reading your Comments.
I will describe an actual experience from exactly 2 years ago. It occurred in November 2014.
I went for an afternoon nap and woke up in the astral.
I woke in a coffin. It took me a few moments to gain my consciousness. I said to myself, “hey, I am not dead.” I then kicked open the coffin door and mentally willed myself to jump up on to the top of my grave. That is how I knew I was in the astral as I mentally willed myself to leap up.
When I stood on top of my grave, I looked around and there were mourners dressed in black crying and a large sinister form in black. This tall figure in black wore a black hat, I could not see his face and a large black robe. Whilst the figure was formless and shapeless, I could feel the malevolence, spite and hatred. The dark figure then spoke and the words boomed in my head and essence.
It said ….””we (the “we” in this case definitely meaning legion”) will make your life a misery. You are nowhere near as powerful as you imagine. You have saved three people … so we will make you suffer. After saying these few sentences I saw al the mourners al enter this dark being …. a powerful demon that wore a crown … and it became taller and thinner.
I then tore of its hat and opened its black robe. When I opened the robe I saw two dark plumes of smoke. I fell back, almost back into my grave when I saw these two black plumes. The demon again said, “you are NOT as powerful as you think” and then smashed me across the face. I went flying across the graveyard smashing into gravestones and other monuments you would find in a cemetery. I woke up from my nap holding my face and rubbing it. The spot where the demon smashed me in the face still hurt.
I then thought and meditated on what happened. Who were these three people OR essences that I had saved. It then struck me. Two of these people were a couple. I assisted them by talking about gnosis and in particular the daily work. The female within the couple, prior to meeting her new partner, had not dreamed in 20 years ! Her male partner asked me questions and assisted her to overcome her fear. I do not want to big note myself. Her male partner assisted her the most. I passed on my experience and the notes that I had taken in class when Mark taught me from 1996-98. When she finally started to dream, it was obvious that she was clairvoyant AND she was right for the work. E.g. she can easily wake up in the astral and she saw he boyfriend’s essence in the astral. She tried to wake him yet he was fully asleep. I taught her how to contact her intimate Divine Mother. She listened and spoke to her. What I taught he was exactly what Mark had taught me in class in 1996-98 at Bondi In Sydney. I do not know who the third person is.
.More importantly – who was this powerful demon? Answer – I instinctively knew ….it was me. To be clearer it was the sum of all my egos. This powerful arch-demon wore a crown. When I was 19 years old, an ex-Tibetan Buddhist monk, she was female, told me that two crowns sit upon my head. The most prevalent crown is that of “depravity and debauchery”. The other crown, which I can only wear after I have set aside the depravity and debauchery, is that of light and righteousness. I have heard this two more times. This same person told me a few years later (and I have heard it from two other people including a Greek Orthodox priest who many say is a living saint) tell me that you are not born like others, if you make an effort you could easily become a saint. You were born “knowing” the scriptures and the word of God.
It is easier said than done. Currently, the demons (my egos) have me caught in a cycle of self-destruction. Fotis, you accurately write ” .. all of these demons … is a perfect excuse for someone to give up or doles or nothing ever, But it’s personal. ” You do not KNOW how right you are. You further say, ” Revolutionary essences or passive, I don’t know but Belsebuub is more than clear …”: Again how right you are. Hopefully, I have provide a tangible experience that brings what you gave written to life. The demons are so powerful and I soon hope to overcome them and gain the real crown.
Thank you for posting this talk. It seems to be more relevant now than at the time in Oregon. I also want to say thank you to all the people who are supporting the light. There have been a lot of opportunities presented in the past while that I am sure would not have been possible without your help. Thank you to Belsebuub for carrying on in the midst of all the darkness, I wish that the light that the light that is brought out by you will one day reach many more people.
Thank you so much for sharing these private talks with a wider audience. This talk is of such seriousness and esoteric depth that it I feel like a lucky ‘fly on a wall’ watching, somehow gaining entry to a spiritual teaching. Not often a ten minute talk can combine such shocking truths about the strength of darkness and demons upon our lives and such uplifting testimony to the treasures and spiritual gifts that can be acquired and uncovered. To hear the note of your own being!
The introduction to the video is also very mysterious and interesting – though I understood demons can be created from humans, what’s shared here about the way the solar system acts as a barrier/boundary/prison for demons is beyond anything I would be able to learn or sense (as I am now!). It’s really helpful to have these snippets of ‘mind-boggling’ information, for me it helps to keep the mystery alive and the yearning to awaken alive too.
As it’s quite baffling to understand that not all sense the spiritual, it’s also quite incredible to see that people don’t sense evil, especially in the state of the world now. As I grew up I could really feel this tug-of-war inside me, and have become even more acutely aware of it, between these two distinct forces. It’s strange to me especially that those people who are interested in spirituality don’t ‘believe’ in darkness, or if they do, it’s something that can be dealt with without a fight.
Thank you Beslesbuub and Lara, though the reality of our position is certainly in part tragedy, misery and darkness, there’s still immense beauty and wonder in contrast too. Your teaching and guidance is really deeply appreciated.
Reading again this message, I realize what a pity is this boundary for the beings of darkness being around of earth.
I wish on other planets there is more beauty, compassion, wisdom, light, and love than here.
Tragedy….. ouch. Probably two of the biggest defects I have noticed is firstly that sometimes I feel it’s just not fair. I suppose I don’t know anything about fair or balance or anything really. It’s just upsetting that tragedy is the normal result of existence for the majority. The ones that ascend were probably always going to do the work and the ones that don’t were always going to end in tragedy? “The little free will…” – is there any free will really exercised by anyone? Were those that fully awaken always going to do so no matter what the circumstances? Does an essence really have any free will or is the nature of the Being of the individual the only thing that matters? Whatever the answers the whole of creation does involve tragedy for most and this just seems not fair. I’m guessing greater understanding is needed to even approach this as a concept. The second big defect for me is that I just couldn’t possibly do it – it’s not my nature and I will fail at some level or another.
These two defects work together to stop any real important starting point. Even if overcome it comes back again to – Tragedy …. today there is isn’t even an opportunity to start? Missed opportunities, organisational structures not taken advantage of. Wow, I will inevitably pay a huge price for missed opportunities.
Lots of questions marks, naturally I don’t expect or deserve any answers. Not even sure why I’m posting a comment – just a very powerful video that brings up a lot.
Thanks for sharing this and all the other videos. Thanks for the books and thanks to all who work hard to get all this information out. Whatever the end tragedy, it is nice to witness what the light can manifest when it transforms an individual.
Thanks for your comment Gavin, to me it shows you pondered the issues deeply. I had the same thinking actually – when it comes to the massive numbers of people getting “lost”, swallowed by the abyss at the end of their cycle of existences. I thought… who would develop a system where the majority always fails and has to go through extreme suffering – not once, not twice, but supposedly thousands of times? To me this seems very cruel, especially given that some Beings/Monads, are just not interested in awakening. So if they are not interested, they should not let their essence to come here and just suffer like that for nothing. I gues I am taking it from a human point of view – if I had a child, I would estimate his/her capacities and let them do something they are able to accomplish, something that they can do well at their level, and not to strive to become, let’s say a virtuous artist or something simlar that’s simply not in their capacity. I would set up “levels” for different essences to grow in, each reaching as far as they can. If they wanted to work extra hard to get to the next level, thats admirable and they would be able to do so, but otherwise they would just stay at their level. A time-consuming suffering in hell – I dont know… I think I would prefer to just somehow automatically stripe those who didnt make it of their egos instead of letting them to be tortured, etc. Its enough that they didnt awaken and have to be just an unaware spark of the absolute, why to make them suffer again and again, without them actually gaining anything at the end…
I remember someone mentioned somewhere, that even those who dont awaken become something like “little buddhas” in the end, as a compensation for all the suffering they went through, but not sure how to imagine that or what to think about it.
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So, lots of questions for sure. Maybe one day we will be able to get some answers and also see the fairness/unfairness aspect through the eyes of our Being.
Hi Gavin, this is not a complete answer to your question, just something I thought I’d write.
I used to read/watch a story about a young hero, which I really liked. Beyond the ‘entertainment value’ the main character is actually incredibly inspiring. An underdog who had faced great injustice, but had become tired of crying over it. Starting a great journey of learning and challenges and growing stage by stage. His will to never give up, to make any efforts needed to reach his goal. The goal is refined on the way and actually has a deep power of love at its base, which is where this resolve and strength spring from. His attitude and action has a great effect on everyone he comes in contact with, transforming them, helping them to believe again or choose to go with that good inside themselves.
Etcetera. The story goes on.
It’s a fictional story, but its appeal comes from it using ‘As above so below’, containing forms of higher truths and principles and this is what gives it its power.
I would say start believing in yourself! Not as a pride thing (which is a parasite steering one to dead ends) but in seeing the reality that spiritual progress is possible. It is.
Then start it. Use the principle of activity to generate a momentum of inner strength. But it seems that even starting this momentum is difficult when being in low states. Here I would recommend starting with a small thing, it can be very small like one walk practising awareness. But we need to be very serious about it, a bit ‘extreme’ in our effort. If we manage that, we’ll have raised our level and willpower a bit. And again you plan your next task, just a small thing, with the same seriousness, this time that first threshold will be slightly less unpleasant.
The point of all this is that we do have some free will, but it’s necessary to put it in action. So the key is activity imo. It seems one secret is that by our consistency of winning tiny battles we can break through and are able to really overpower the hold of the ego opposing force within for periods of time. From that state great learning and experiences can take place and things can move forward.
“it’s not my nature and I will fail at some level or another.” I don’t know about that. From what you write you have an understanding of some of these esoteric things? Then if you can win one battle, you can potentially win the war.
I think you gave some really spot-on advice here, Karim. It truly is like this vicious cycle of doubt and uncertainty that perpetuates our being locked in low states. But with consistent effort, we can regain lost ground and, with it, the willpower and strength to keep going.
I feel like I sometimes get tricked into waiting for this great strength to carry me forward and forget that it has to be me that generates it. And, like you said, that’s done through activity — no way around that. A genuine longing to be connected to the Divine also brings with it a kind of confidence in knowing that, if I can establish this small connection with this amount of effort, then that must mean I can get even closer and go further with greater efforts.
Thanks for sharing your insights :-)
Dear Gavin,
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this. You’re right, Belsebuub’s teachings really do bring up a lot and they have evoked some important questions in you. His work presents the truth to us, and sometimes it’s really hard to digest! That sense of it all being unfair is something I can relate to, and I’m sure many others if not everyone will have grappled with this at some point too. Those here must have concluded, like myself, that even though the whole ‘divine comedy’ might seem unfair, it’s still worth participating in as fully as possible, and that it’s probably not unfair at all – if it appears so, it’s because we can’t comprehend the entirety of it, yet. And, that though the odds might seem against us, it’s still worth every last effort. And, though we may seem destined for failure, if everything we do has its repercussions in eternity, then surely it’s worth working towards the awakening now. You may feel as though it’s not ‘in your nature’, that others have an ‘unfair’ advantage, but maybe it will be you, in an existence unfathomable years from now, who has that head start. But not because of a kind of lottery, because you earned it. If you are drawn towards awakening, I hope you use whatever motivation you have to spend your life doing just that.
Thank you very much Belsebuub for getting to the core and saying these things.
I do not really know what to comment or emphasise because what is said is so deep and perfectly said.
I personally find psychological sleep terrifying. It is like not being, you are actually not. Where ‘life’ is like moving along a conveyor belt.
Coming out of sleep a bit and then falling back into it shows its insanity is mind-boggling. Stuck inside a ‘bubble’ outside of which there is reality, which cannot be touched, and divine forces that are out there which cannot be felt. Everyone else is also in such a bubble and it’s a particularly peculiar situation on Earth when everyone shares the illusion. I can see how it requires spiritual activity to be able to see beyond, and how if one doesn’t apply this it can seem entirely as if there is nothing.
There are many points in this talk that strike very deep. I hope to take its message to heart and apply the key of activity.
Such a profound video.
It’s a tragedy that we have lost these treasures that are just waiting for us – inspiration to put in more effort to strengthen that link with the Divine.
Thanks so much.
There is a lot to take from this video, belsebuub really sheds light on what is actually going on.
Sometimes the truth doesn’t sit well inside and its hard to deal with, but this doesn’t take away the fact that this war between light and darkness is really happening…
I really took to the part when belsebuub talks about searching for our treasure, and hopefully uncovering it!
As a chid and through to my early adulthood i had this intense drive to be searching for something.
I could never explain it but i would go from sport to sport, hobby to hobby, but these things of the material world could never nourish this drive inside…..
When i found these teachings truly, i had this strong feeling of finding what i was looking for. Its hard to describe in words.
I hope with lots of hard work, i will be helped from the divine to uncover these treasures belsebuub talks about.
Thankyou so much for this valuable post.
This talk left me speechless. I know what I have to do to be more active and ask for help yet I often find myself struggling to stay motivated to apply the effort, especially now more than ever without having the support of a school or the retreats. It’s heartbreaking to know that so many people around me walking on the streets in my hometown and beyond are completely unaware about the invisible forces at play that are working against them from reaching light. It’s been especially hard to see their terrible impact on people close to me and on fallen comrades too. I don’t want to see the dark side drag down any more victims.
Thank you so much Belsebuub for this talk. Hearing this talk really makes a big impact, and the seriousness of the situation we are in. Doing this spiritual work feels like a real urgency to me and attaining freedom from all that enslaves us is of paramount importance. I’m so grateful for having found these teachings.
Thank you, Mark and Lara, for sharing this video.
Although I have heard about these entities of darkness and the inferior region of the earth, it was a shock for me hearing so clearly, what fatal destiny waits the majority of humanity. It is definitely a boost for me to escape from this destiny.
Besides, it is really sad that the forces of darkness gravitate around the earth. Fortunately, there is a boundary on this.
This can be confronting information, but it does not take that much time nor effort to verify, that highly intelligent and cunning negative beings do exist and it also seems that they never rest.
Thank you for sharing with us this invaluable knowledge.
Remembering that there are opposing forces, not only coming from our interior, but also of an exterior nature, gives me strength and revives my determination to apply myself more seriously, and in a mysterious way also rekindles spiritual yearnings.
Thanks for this talk it really points out the importance to move froward with the work and not to be over come by the darkness, as this seems like it is all to easy to do nothing for this darkness to take over. I notice those times when I am able to wake up in the astral a lot of the times there seems to be these negative entities waiting around for me, making the job to stay there and discover things even harder
On the surface these demons of darkness are so evident, we only need to look at the destruction of our planet and the evil which controls all the people.
I found the information on this talk very useful and very worthy of deep reflection. To be honest my words are completely insignificant to the wisdom of Belsebuub.
Thanks Lara for all your hard work.
Thank You very much for giving to us this knowledge. I experienced enough to know that these things are very real, looking forward to find a way to win this war.
Thank you Belsebuub
Shook me up a bit this talk, has made me reasses how much effort I really am putting in and how much more is required.
Much appreciated.