What can we learn by having out of body experiences? Belsebuub on Triple J radio

Triple J radio host Dave Callan and Belsebuub discuss out of body experiences, near death experiences and travel in the astral plane. On the Graveyard Shift show.

By |2018-06-30T12:47:33+00:00September 25th, 2016|astral projection and dreams, media interviews|5 Comments

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Lara Atwood is a researcher and practitioner of the native, indigenous Indo-European religion of her ancient ancestors, which is a branch of the ancient Religion of the Sun. She runs the YouTube channel SakroSawel and the website sakrosawel.com ("sakro sawel" means "sacred sun" in Proto-Indo European). Writing alongside her husband Mark, she helped co-author the book The Path of the Spiritual Sun.


  1. Sue September 28, 2016 at 9:00 am - Reply

    Thanks for a brilliant interview. I loved Belsebuub’s answer to the question about what happens to the mind during Astral projection where is talks about Consciousness and how it becomes a personal exploration to find out what these things are about and the limitations of science (or religion) to be able to explain that.

    I thought Dave’s ‘great ambition’ was hysterical – having an OBE while receiving an OBE! He’s such a great interviewer, asking questions that allow Belsebuub to provide a wide range of information in quite reasonable depth in a relatively short interview, including examples of how to use the Astral and symbolism.

    Belsebuub’s comments about eternity and exploring the bigger picture while we are here were hugely motivating.

  2. Martin September 27, 2016 at 7:55 am - Reply

    Fantastic interview, thanks for sharing. Really interesting to hear the questions that were sent through from the listeners.

  3. john p September 26, 2016 at 10:49 am - Reply

    I remember when I first discovered the teachings of Belsebuub, I had no interest in Astral travel. The information/techniques given were easy to understand but I couldn’t get out of my body, I just couldn’t get my mind to stop thinking.
    It all changed after many months of learning to concentrate on one thing and finally I verify the astral plane. I really had to work hard and I still need do today.
    The big difference today is, I now understand why it’s so important to work on yourself during the day as to benefit from the astral plane.

    Thanks for the talk.

  4. Karim September 25, 2016 at 9:36 pm - Reply

    I like the part where Dave Callan mentions the need to try to find things out “we owe it to ourselves since we’re all going to die.” And the way Belsebuub describes the importance of it, inviting one to view one’s life in the context of eternity. It really makes absolute sense. Yet, if I look around, the neighbours in the street, people in the city etc. Who’s actually seriously focussing on finding the answer to that question? No one really it seems, unless certain events shake things up. In a way that’s a pretty crazy thing. We all know intellectually that we’re going to die at some point, but somehow we don’t really feel it.
    For myself I find it good to try to remember and feel that context as much as possible, so as to be able to put myself to put in as much efforts as possible now.

    Writing this just made me try to remember when the first exact time was that it occurred to me I was also going to die. Would be interesting to hear when people realised this, if you can remember.

  5. Vadim September 25, 2016 at 10:46 am - Reply

    Dear Mark and Lara, thank you so much for giving to us this guidance; these talks are so helpful on where to go, where to put the efforts to really move forward.

    I have just had an interesting astral experience a day ago, which was unfortunately disrupted by a negative entity (but it was nice to verify again the effectiveness of our recitations), and wish to build up from that momentum and explore more things consciously, and listening to Belsebuub talking about these things provides so much of an inspiration.

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