How to see ego states within and remove them

A video of a talk looking at how to observe and discover ego states within and how to remove them or ‘die to them’. Ego states are the subconscious emotions, drives and feelings that create so much negativity within and in the world and they affect a person beyond this life. In the absence of the ego, inner peace and stillness are present.

From Quebec, Canada in July 2004.

By |2016-10-27T13:58:58+00:00February 1st, 2015|consciousness and personal development, video|142 Comments

About the Author:

Mark Pritchard is a practitioner of the native, indigenous Indo-European religion of his ancient ancestors, which is a branch of the ancient Religion of the Sun, and is the founder of the revival of the ancient Religion of the Sun in modern times. He's been teaching since 1990, has been dedicated to spiritual practice for decades, and has had metaphysical experiences since childhood. He has authored a number of books on out-of-body experiences, consciousness, and spiritual awakening, including an earlier edition of The Astral Codex which became a bestseller in its genre, and Gazing into the Eternal which was a finalist in the Best Book Awards 2009 in spirituality. He has appeared on over 70 radio and television programs internationally, and writes with the name Belsebuub, which is the name of his spirit/soul/consciousness.


  1. carmel muir May 13, 2018 at 9:51 am - Reply

    Thank you Mark for this very powerful video, its a real call to action and a reminder of how urgent it really is to be carrying this work out and also the importance of praying for the necessary help to do what is required. Thanks for pointing things out so clearly

  2. Tone February 22, 2016 at 12:47 pm - Reply

    That was so very much exactly what I needed to hear, many thanks Belsebuub for posting that. There are so many valuable points made here that, for me, strike an uncomfortable and also motivating chord; not least of them, the point about self-deceit. And also the real level of self-observation that is required to progress. I think this will have to be a regular watch for me. While I know that you could say that about pretty well all of the talks, this really covers so many things that I know I need to be reminded of, and focusing on constantly improving. Once again, many, many thanks.

  3. john p February 13, 2016 at 10:04 pm - Reply

    Hi all,

    I’ve been slowing watching the Belsebuub YouTube videos and although they’ve been such a massive boost, I couldn’t help feeling this sense of deep sadness since the videos are getting such low numbers of viewings and especially comments.
    I also felt responsible and I deeply regret not having commented earlier.

    Moving forward, I was hoping that others may like to assist and post comments and bring them alive. I’m sure there are many other ways but it could be a start.

    In the past there has been concerns that we no longer have classes/centres but if we look closely The Belsebuub Teachings are very much alive today, and we have every opportunity to use the tools that we need.

    So far, the videos have been very special and a great way to get my own private lessons.

    • richard spencer February 15, 2016 at 7:08 am - Reply

      I agree John I was also amazed at how little views some of the videos had considering the powerful content that is contained within them and the great boost that they also give me, I also have not really commented to much on the videos only this web site, but if it helps them to come alive and other people to hopefully find them I think its a really good idea thanks for bring it up John

      • john p February 15, 2016 at 11:42 am - Reply

        Daya and I have just finished watching 3 of Belsebuub’s videos on YouTube and they were such a big boost. It’s not the first time that we’ve watched them but they’re always a perfect timing to what we need.

        Hopefully others searching will find these teachings.

    • Tone February 20, 2016 at 3:56 pm - Reply

      That’s an excellent idea John. I must admit I’ve not been active at all online, but must make more of an effort to make amends. The boost I’ve got from watching the videos is profound. They always seem to be the exact one you need to watch at that moment. Very powerful indeed.

      I can understand people feeling a little lost without the centres and the former structure we all had. But it’s really important to realise, as you’ve said, that everything is still very much alive. Yes, it would certainly be good for us all to chip in and do what we can to lift the profile of the videos and help to make them more accessible to others who are searching. Really glad you brought this up.

  4. Karim October 16, 2015 at 2:03 am - Reply

    I was just rereading this blog thread, about the state of the light, everyone’s insights, dealing with our own weakness etc. So quick to forget and I found it good to remember.

  5. James N February 28, 2015 at 10:38 am - Reply

    This talk is extremely helpful to me. I have watched a few times and I foresee that I’ll need to watch it many times more.
    Thank you so much Mark for releasing this talk so grateful. How is it that I can so easily forget these pearls of truth?

  6. Seraphim February 25, 2015 at 10:09 am - Reply

    Thank you Mark for this inspiring video about the self observation and death.

    It is really precious this key. This can be comprehensive when someone practices on this. From the other side is so difficult to be applied continuously. From this video it seems clearly that the matter of sacrifice is the crucial point in order someone overcome all the obstacles and continue the death and the esoteric work.

  7. Steve February 16, 2015 at 11:12 am - Reply

    Hi all,

    Apologies if I have missed the explanation, but what is the reason why POTSW hasn’t been republished? it is financial, or the people running the publishing company are focusing on other things, or that it is deliberately not being published for an esoteric reason? Perhaps if it is financial we can all chip in some funds and get it done – of course, I have no idea about the priorities for fundraising or the cost of publishing books, so this may be a crazy suggestion. It’s such an important book.


  8. James N February 16, 2015 at 10:44 am - Reply

    Just wanted to mention that it is helpful to actually go to youtube where the video is uploaded & ‘Like’/comment on the video – means that it will reach more people and rate higher in the search ranks of others.

  9. Julian Kingman February 14, 2015 at 6:58 am - Reply

    Thank you Mark and everyone for your words, I find living lessons emerging from each of them.

    It seems like what’s been needed for quite some time are people that are willing to take initiative, action, and responsibility without direction or rewards (externally), or at least it seems that it’s what I feel called to become to take a more effective part in this war.
    If we look at the situation as a war, we’re outnumbered about 30 million to one (optimistically), surrounded, flanked, dispersed, separated by distances and circumstances, and with no commanding officers, because they would be the first to be shot down. In such a hopeless situation, it seems the only option that may have any strength is to listen internally (through intuition, dreams, or other guidance) and act on what may seem like faint clues in a certain direction, but the best clues we’ve got. It’s oddly easy to brush aside such guidance…
    I’ve noticed that by both following (and asking for) guidance, and by working on the things that are most hindering me, interesting things happen in my life and work, even if I’m in situations that on the surface are not the most conducive for the work, or that seem like bad situations. Conversely, I’ve been in situations that you would think are ideal for the work, where very little happens. For me realizing this has made me more adaptable, and more able to learn things from unexpected situations, and in unexpected ways. It’s such an uncomfortable experience to transition from a known way of doing things to this.
    It makes me ponder the deeper meaning of sacrifice that Mark talks about in this video, and how maybe I don’t fully understand all that it entails.

    • Zorana February 15, 2015 at 11:21 pm - Reply

      What you mention, Julian, about how easy it is to ‘brush aside such guidance’ I find really true. It takes time and lots of observation to pick up on those small nudges. And I notice that if I ignore it a few times too often or go against it, I have to rebuild that (maybe trust?) capability to tune in with divinity. It’s quite a challenge and things can become confusing if I don’t listen enough or if I put my efforts elsewhere.

      Also, with how certain situations seem to be conducive for the work on the surface, that was an interesting point… often, I’ll do what I think is right for the work (something I’d whip up to be ‘logical’) and that can actually hold me back because I’m acting through certain ideas that have accumulated over time (or due to other’s opinions) about what is ‘right’ externally. Instead, I hope to be better at listening to the consciousness and feeling the right thing to do. To focus more on what is best internally not what seems to be a good idea just on the surface. Usually in retrospect, those ‘good ideas’ are laughably off mark. Sometimes it seems like it’s a battle with the mind and what has worked in the past or with other people, in place of being open to something completely new, like you mention at the end. Definitely uncomfortable.

      Thanks for your input.

      • Anne Linn February 18, 2015 at 5:43 am - Reply

        I really liked what you said Zorana. I always end up feeling very lost if I don’t follow those internal nudges that seem to be guiding me. It can be confusing because often they don’t seem to match up to things I’ve believed to be true, as well as the ways I thought I had to do things.

        What struck me was when you said that maybe it’s about building trust with the divine. That’s what I yearn to do. I want to have an inner connection with the divine, an inner guidance at all times, so that I won’t so easily be thrown off balance by the smallest things.

    • Patricia February 16, 2015 at 5:45 pm - Reply

      “It makes me ponder the deeper meaning of sacrifice that Mark talks about in this video, and how maybe I don’t fully understand all that it entails”

      Julian, I completely relate to your statement about sacrifice and whether I truly understand it myself. I find it so easy to get caught up on ideals or be influenced by the expectations of others without really applying the efforts to unravel the truth myself. The strange part is that my own internal voice tells me when I’m wasting time with certain day-to-day activities but the problem is I’m not exactly sure what I’m suppose to be doing instead.

      There is a great need for personal reflection on everything that has been discussed here on this thread and I’m very appreciative of everyone’s contributions to it.

      Like everyone else here, I pray that we can all figure out a way make this work – to keep the teachings alive, to make them available for all and to apply them properly and responsibly.

    • G February 17, 2015 at 1:54 pm - Reply

      Julian, I could relate to what you described, particularly this point:

      “In such a hopeless situation, it seems the only option that may have any strength is to listen internally (through intuition, dreams, or other guidance) and act on what may seem like faint clues in a certain direction, but the best clues we’ve got. It’s oddly easy to brush aside such guidance…”

      I have experienced this. I can see it most in intense situations, where I reached that guidance after extensive efforts and followed it through. However, this was often when there was a known, physical ‘enemy,” in a way making it easier because I had to respond to urgent, external situations.

      I was able to see the power of spiritual guidance through those experiences. When reading this, it really resonated with me because that is a state of living that I long to reach again. It seems like, during peaceful times, that interest in living in such a state of obedience to the light, it can slip away..and progress slows.

      Thanks for sharing that, as I found it relevant to the current situation, and worth exploring further.When I read the stories of individuals who have walked the spiritual path, it sounds like this must be a crucial part of progressing.

      • Olga February 18, 2015 at 9:19 pm - Reply

        G, I think you and Julian’s comment have really pin pointed something crucial for me which I can also strongly relate to. When there is a lot going on, urgent things, a lot of intensity and activity and a severe need for the light to be there, without a question I will call upon the light, upon any guidance I can get, and I can easily find a way to quench it and know what to do.

        But it is in these times where things are seemingly peaceful and quiet… where is the revolutionary longing?

        I remember recently having a dream where my life was in danger, but without much delay, I called upon the divine and it was there to help. So I don’t really need any convincing that the divine help is busy or not interested in me. But I also wonder why too easily we quiet down our call for the divine when things seem calm and nothing really is going on? Is this perhaps the real danger?

        After all, isn’t our whole life in a dire situation of whether we awaken or not?

        Last night I watched a movie about King Solomon, his story showed how humble and close to god he was when he started his reign, how deeply he prayed and yearned to serve god well because he was afraid he wouldn’t be a good king. He faced and overcame many challenges. His greatest task was to build a temple for god, which brought a lot of pressure and seriousness upon him, but after that was over he lost his purpose and little by little got taken up by his arrogance and the pleasures of life and gradually lost his devotion to God. At the end, the divine told him how he had failed, and that everything would be taken away from him, and it surprised me that only then did he take his life seriously and again opened his arms to pray for forgiveness, but as it was at the end of his life, it was already too late.

        • Layla February 19, 2015 at 3:45 am - Reply

          Interesting points you bring up here Olga, about where our life hangs, and the illusion that we’re in.

          Walking down the street the other day, I remembered what Jesus had said that in the end he will come like a thief in the night. It kind of dawned on me that that moment can be anytime, as looking around me I could see that though it was daylight, humanity was in darkness, and as in night we sleep, so now I could see how asleep we are. We live in this illusion that time will just keep things rolling along, both personally and for humanity on the whole, but if He will come a like a thief in the night, then what preparedness have we made for this?

          • Olga February 20, 2015 at 1:32 am

            That sure is something to reflect on Layla…

            Perhaps time among other things gives a sense of security and comfort, but really we need to break free of all illusion and deception and see things how they are, and prepare our inner states for anything to happen, before the very things that comforted us, swallow us up and blind us from seeing what we need to see.

        • Lucia February 19, 2015 at 10:27 am - Reply

          Thank you Olga for sharing about king Solomon. I can imagine how a lot of responsibility and “important tasks” may create an illusion within a person that he is progressing and stop being careful and losing his connection to the Divine. Or just the mere fact that there is too much to do makes one skip certain practices, losing the sincerity of prayers and sinking too deeply into materialism.

          • Olga February 20, 2015 at 1:44 am

            It leaves me to wonder about the right inner state to have when doing a good thing for the world, and combining it with one’s own salvation. For instance there is a certain humility and unknowing when it comes to considering our own spiritual fate, but when you do something good, like Solomon building a temple, you know you are in the ”right” with God, so how to overcome that and return to recognizing our own spiritual poverty when it comes to what we must achieve and work towards?

        • Jenny February 19, 2015 at 9:31 pm - Reply

          “But it is in these times where things are seemingly peaceful and quiet… where is the revolutionary longing?” >> This is definitely a pitfall I’ve seen many times. It’s easier to be revolutionary when there’s a great urgency and a lot of action, but in the quiet times it can be easy to forget just how much “sustenance” we receive from the divine. The King Solomon tale is definitely a good analogy of the far ends of this problem.

          • Olga February 20, 2015 at 2:06 am

            As I was reflecting on this a bit more the image of the frog in boiling water came to mind.


            By not acknowledging the great urgency we stay content with the increasing danger, and before we know it, are slowly boiled alive like the frog.

            It made me wonder about the force of psychological sleep and how subtle it is to work against. Whereas external activities that require our immediate action to defend something, are so obvious and in plain sight. It seems that anything that we do or manifest externally has the ability to create a certain comfort or security that we are doing ok when it comes to spiritual well-being. But the rise of our own ego states, temptation, weaknesses etc.. are a constant threat, and are all happening internally, and if we do not have that same devotion to overcome them, I wonder if we can overcome them at all?

          • Shane February 21, 2015 at 12:43 am

            Most people don’t think they are awake, they believe and know to their core that they are already fully conscious and awake. Is it possible to tell the little bird in the park, hopping around me, pecking at food that I cant see, to wake up?

            The humanoid negative vibrations and occasional ‘bad’ dream in Hell, are just an inconvenience, soon forgotten, as we arise, wash our face, have breakfast, and find something fun to do.

            Waiting or fearing an unknown event in the future, misfortune of karma, or sudden death, is not enough to seek repentance and avoidance. Similar to the story of Dante’s canto 27:
            “When he died, St. Francis came for him, but a devil pulled him away, saying that a man could not receive absolution before sinning, for absolution cannot precede repentance and repentance cannot precede the sin. Such preemptive absolution he deemed “contradictory,” and thus invalid.”

            For many believers their conscience causes them to pray for forgiveness but there Will is still firmly directed to the physical world trapped in time. They go to the pub after church and commit the same sins after preemptive confession.
            So it’s ok to carry on with bad habits and actions because we said sorry beforehand and acknowledged that we are doing the wrong thing, but just cant change?

        • G February 20, 2015 at 11:04 am - Reply

          Thanks very much, Olga.

          I appreciate the story you shared from King Solomon. I am sure at some point, he must have become aware of how things were unfolding. I wonder, what if he had simply taken the opportunity to change those states that were underlying his choices, lifestyle, and focus. His choices and actions would have come from a different place then, and maybe it would have changed the course of his life and fate.

          • Shane February 21, 2015 at 1:13 am

            It’s too easy to assess, maybe judge others’ failure when we have never walked in their shoes, nor reached their heights. To take opportunity and ‘simply change’ would mean most of humanity that have tried, would have already risen… and not fallen back down.

          • Layla February 22, 2015 at 3:15 pm

            So true G, and its something that I feel is so important to come to see and understand in my own life. I feel that this is where the real change is hidden and the source of repeating problems can be uncovered.

            I find its something that we don’t pay attention to, but like an undercurrent it moves things in its own direction, even though we may, on the surface, aspire to something else.

          • G February 25, 2015 at 3:15 pm

            Hi Shane, thanks for your comment.

            I can see why someone might get that impression based on what I wrote. I just wanted to clarify something.

            I do not believe that walking the spiritual path or change are easy. I do feel that the choices are simple though, when there is love and experience guiding a person.

            For example, the other day someone I love said something that hurt my pride. As soon as I became aware that my pride was hurt, I had to make a choice. I had a responsibility to make that choice because I realized that I was aware of what I felt, and I knew from past experience that it could lead to something harmful. I could either go along with that states or stop it then. While something urged me to dwell on it, I remember saying to the divine to stop it right away, out of love for that person, so it would not turn to anger or harm that person.

            Because of the love and understanding behind the choice, it was very simple and straightforward, even though it was hard…but that love gave it a strength, as did having experienced how that ego snowballs and having the faith gained from seeing things resolve when I do not go along with those states.

            Similarly, on a large scale, I am sure most reading have faced major conflicts or have had opportunities that could somehow take them away the spiritual work. Again, I have found the choices in these situations are often simple (and if not at the time, in hindsight). With love driving those choices, and with the benefit of spiritual guidance and experience, there is an extra strength to do overcome the forces driving things down though.

          • Olga February 27, 2015 at 5:02 pm

            G, I found what you wrote extremely helpful and has given me a new understanding on how to apply the death of the egos. It also seems that here lies the key to true brotherhood through the battle for love.

          • Alex February 28, 2015 at 8:00 am

            Like Olga said, thank you G for clarifying the struggle in the moment. You’ve put love right in the daily struggle that we face each day, and it’s up to us how much we do along that front.

            The Light of Christ, by Belsebuub comes to mind;

            “In the struggle for light, the opposition of the darkness becomes opportunity for the wise.

            The light creates form from the struggle with darkness, and the form that exists in the world becomes a beacon of light for the world.”

            I wish much strength for everyone and new hope for the light!

        • john p February 23, 2015 at 7:11 pm - Reply

          Hello Olga,

          Could you please let me know the name of the movie for king Solomon.

        • Seraphim February 25, 2015 at 10:48 am - Reply

          Olga, very nice the story with King Solomon and your comments you posted after about the right esoteric position.

          There are many to learn about ourselves and what to do in order to walk internally. When we think we know something, we feel “fully” and this can stop us to continue search internally.
          Probably for this reason Socrates said more than 2.500 years ago “One thing I know that I don’t know anything”. Probably he said this in order to emphasize in humility.

          • Olga February 26, 2015 at 1:36 am

            I couldn’t agree with you more Seraphim. When the cup is full there is nothing to learn that will be able to satisfy our thirst.

            It seems that only in realizing our own spiritual poverty, how little we know etc., do we stand a chance to be filled with guidance and wisdom directly through the hands of the divine.

      • Christos February 19, 2015 at 7:45 pm - Reply

        I remember myself when I was looking for the meaning of life. I was in a seeking mode, actively trying to learn and find out what is going on inside of me and in the world. When I joined a group of people that were doing the same and when I realised that they were up to something real it was the happiest days of my life. I had really felt home.

        The fact that such a group or organisation does not exist at this point is really sad. The discipline and strength a group like that could provide is lost, leaving seekers that were attending it scattered and because of that weak and vulnerable. New people searching the way I was searching back then won’t feel the blessing of having something solid and strong, that will help and guide them in their search for the light like that organisation I used to be part of.

        I feel that loosing that organisation has been the saddest thing ever for me. It is after loosing it that I realised how invaluable it was and why seekers of light throughout time were part of such organisations.

        I am glad at least this website is around. I am glad Belsebuub is around as an agent of light. The only hope really that remains in this dark world, even for the people already knowing what to do.

        • Zorana February 20, 2015 at 12:21 am - Reply

          That was sad to read, Christos. I guess I don’t really know what strength and discipline you are referring to, seems to be of a different kind (achieved by a large, focused group) and I would like to say that I hope things would be that way again but it does not seem to be going in that direction. I feel like I am back and forth with hope on this. Pretty strange way to feel. But if there really was no/very little hope, we wouldn’t even be here, right?

          That part is motivating in a way. What else are we to do? It seems so urgent now to overcome things slowing our progress, fight back to build and maintain that discipline and strength…just gathering from comments on here, not in comparison to past times.

        • Patricia A. February 20, 2015 at 5:53 pm - Reply

          I felt the same way about being in a group like that too Christos – it meant the world to me and it is sad to say that it disappeared. This reminds me so much of the Friendship Case story and how a group of E.T.s had contacted a specific group of people who ended up working together to help them with their mission to help humanity. The only caveat was that the group of people had to be united in order for that mission to work. When there was conflict among the members of the group that forced them to separate, the E.T.s abandoned their mission and posts from all over the world. The obstacles/egos that the group of friends were faced with had in the end threatened the welfare of the individuals, the group and the mission itself. But it doesn’t have to be that way. We have the tools and the understanding to do this, to overcome those obstacles that threaten the light. We have the capability to come together and work on making this happen.

          • Shane February 21, 2015 at 9:02 am

            Interesting story Patricia. I recall watching some ET’s once, they were close to their space craft performing errands and telepathically communicating among themselves. I watched in awe and wanted to be like them, to move so gracefully and be at peace and harmony with themselves and everything around.
            They knew I wanted to go with them, but they simply moved into their craft, without looking back at me, not even a glance, and took off.
            The message was unmistakable.

          • Julian Kingman February 21, 2015 at 3:52 pm

            Wow, shane, that’s a beautiful story.

          • Lucia February 21, 2015 at 5:38 pm

            What a beautiful experience Shane, even though somewhat sad. Still, you’ve got a chance to see them and the way they act and behave, what an inspiration… Was the encounter in the astral or physical if you don’t mind sharing?

          • Jenny February 21, 2015 at 6:57 pm

            Beautiful story, Shane. Thanks for sharing. I had a similar experience out-of-body several times as well.

          • DavidH February 22, 2015 at 7:42 am

            Yes, I recalled that part recently too Patricia from the Friendship Case as a result of all the comments on this thread and the reasons why the light is presently imprisoned. I remember they were told something like they needed to stick together and be harmonious with each other in order for the ET’s to stick around with them!
            I think the point is community. Unity with each other. Looking out for one another, taking responsibility to look after one another and not forgetting this no matter if the old organisation doesn’t exist anymore but still supporting the light and its agents so hopefully things can rebuild and flourish.

          • Olga February 22, 2015 at 11:55 pm

            David, your words really resound deep with me so I want to thank you for sharing them. These past few weeks my thoughts and reflections also drew upon this subject and how important that the vehicle of light be not only a force of light for the world but also for each other. After all, wouldn’t it be contradictory to work towards light, to fight for it, and protect it without a kind of brotherhood with care for each other’s wellbeing?

            I also do wonder if this is a cause of imprisonment? If there is something here that could be improved or researched more? Since I couldn’t imagine something as such to go very far, given that this dispelled even the ET’s in the Friendship case. If the lightworkers of the world are not united how could higher beings of light be attracted to their cause?

            But if they are united, how could any force of darkness ever stop them? It seems that within such a community one would be often tested and assaulted thoroughly with forces of darkness that would want to break things apart from within, and thus slow progress down for the light as a whole. But through the process of facing and overcoming the darkness, perhaps light is saved in small waves, saved and protected within the space of two brothers or two sisters. Instead of arguing there is understanding, instead of competition there is encouragement etc… Then these tiny victories become like the foundation of defence for the greater light. The sacrifices one makes to save the light in smaller forms, strengthens the armor of the army through the experience of smaller battles.

            This whole topic really reminds me of how much the Essenes talked about brotherhood. Under this very topic, they say : ‘’Love is stronger than the currents of deep waters. Love is stronger than death.’’

            But it is in this passage, where it couldn’t be any more plainer:

            ”If a man says, I love the Heavenly Father, but hate my brother,
            He is a liar: For he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, How can he love the Heavenly Father whom he hath not seen?”

            I do think supporting and freeing the light means a lot more than being inspired and wanting to move towards the great supreme light. I think we must fight for the light in our brother’s face, in the immediate situations where light is born and where it’s threatened, otherwise how can we ever win the greater battles that threaten the great light.

          • Zorana February 23, 2015 at 7:33 am

            Olga, I appreciate so much your comment…many parts within it resonate with me as well. Particularly: “It seems that within such a community one would be often tested and assaulted thoroughly with forces of darkness that would want to break things apart from within, and thus slow progress down for the light as a whole. But through the process of facing and overcoming the darkness, perhaps light is saved in small waves, saved and protected within the space of two brothers or two sisters.”

            Even with my limited experience of being with a group that is trying to bring more light to the world, I found this to be so true. It would sometimes be in very subtle ways that negativity creeps in (and I would usually notice it after the fact), when there is a delicate situation where people are more vulnerable, or even when we get too comfortable and let our guard down—we give that opportunity for the darkness to steal harmony and break the flow of positivity.

            And “The sacrifices one makes to save the light in smaller forms, strengthens the armor of the army through the experience of smaller battles.” is exactly what I’ve felt to focus on a lot more and be more determined to apply daily since gathering strength and motivation from the many wonderful comments on here. I notice that there can be a tendency to recognize egos but then categorize them as “I will tackle this when it is a bigger problem” (something in that sense) instead of recognizing it as an immediate threat to progress and the growth of light within. These small battles you mention are so crucial to me to treat them accordingly.

            I especially love the second quote you have on there; it has opened my eyes in the past and nourished a kinship with all those I am in contact with not just limited to friends and family. It’s always a big help to come back to it.

          • Aleksandr K February 23, 2015 at 8:57 am

            Olga, David, Shane, and Others. Thank you for bringing up these last few points about friendship and community. I have seen (and forgotten!) how important this is, and the reminder from Friendship Case really brings it home.

            I was looking for some understanding for what I can do personally to help the cause of light – and this is obviously it. And I hope that if a more direct way of helping can open itself I will be prepared enough to be of assistance.

            On that note, has anyone come across any materials (or experiences) that can help understand how important friendship is, and what strength it has?

            Thank you Everyone for your comments, and Mark for your input.

          • Lucia February 23, 2015 at 11:43 am

            Hi Aleks,

            The words of Judas from The Flight of the Feathered Serpent often come to me regarding this. In there, Judas said he is not just a friend, but he is friendship itself. I found that so inspiring – how one can become an embodiment of a force he is deeply devoted to. Here is the whole excerpt:

            “How is it that you come to visit me so often and you haven’t disappeared like the others who fled as soon as they knew about my situation?

            I am more than a friend: I am the friendship that unites us.”

            I couldn’t help smiling, with it I wanted to tell him that it wasn’t the right time to throw his paradoxes at me and I insisted:

            “But, how is it that the police haven’t arrested you knowing you are my most intimate friend?”

            His answer was as incomprehensible as everything else:

            “Friendship protects me. And it protects you too, although in a different way.””

          • Roy February 25, 2015 at 12:11 am

            Thanks all for bringing up the topic of friendship into the discussion. The story of the Friendship Case touched me deeply and how fortunate those people were to be allowed to work with E.T’s to help humanity? In the same way, how fortunate are those people who know about the keys to change and the inner awakening? As for the Friendship Case, I always wondered why the group of friends parted and what has brought them to this, but I’m slowly starting to see how this could have happened.

            “I think we must fight for the light in our brother’s face, in the immediate situations where light is born and where it’s threatened, otherwise how can we ever win the greater battles that threaten the great light.”
            I feel you are onto something Olga, I too think that those little fights for light and for our brothers and sisters around us can make a huge difference. One thousand small steps make up a mile.

          • Daniel L February 25, 2015 at 2:09 pm

            Perhaps now that many of us are expressing a yearning for something where we can work together, something will materialize.

          • Olga February 26, 2015 at 12:50 am

            @David L, perhaps its already in front of us 🙂

          • Jon February 27, 2015 at 12:58 am

            Ancient Sacred Knowledge and Silent Pines Retreat are two ongoing initiatives where people are working together.

          • DavidH February 27, 2015 at 8:50 am

            I was thinking the same thing Jon. Anyone from the community can get involved in a number of ways if they want to such as:

            Help research for Ancient Sacred Knowledge

            Help with ideas for Silent Pines Retreat

            Help look for plagiarism

            Just participating in the various blogs around is a way of helping too and there are a number of areas with ongoing costs.

            Recently I walked past a building which had the following quote on a plague facing the street;
            “Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed people can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has.” ~ Margaret Mead

            Imagine what everyone in this community can do!

          • Julian Kingman March 2, 2015 at 4:12 am

            I love that quote David. David & Jon, thanks for bringing it back to something practical, it seems there indeed is plenty to be done.

        • Karim February 20, 2015 at 8:39 pm - Reply

          Well said Christos. Tragic and true.

          It is so unfortunate that this ‘school’ is gone.
          Without it who is able to cross that bridge? (Even if managing to come across this website etc.) which new seeker is able to gradually acquire the understanding and their own experiences of these teachings enough to the extent where they are able to take it up seriously as part of their lives and stay with it? How many people managed this since that time of the online courses….

          I am also so grateful this website is still here, that Belsebuub is here.
          But it seems to me that for new seekers the bridge to cross in understanding is too big and without such an environment/school to carry them through almost impossible. If another e-book is released now, what impact would it have, what reach would it have?

          I wonder… is it possible for some sort of vehicle to form again, or a project(s) that can reach a big audience and can have the structure to generate continuity and strength for new people to cross that bridge. What would that look like. I think it would take a great united effort for it to happen. But, I don’t know.

          • Ella March 7, 2015 at 7:09 am

            The existence of Silent Pine and all that is happening with MLP and ASK is inspiring for certain, and I hope I can turn the insight that I also did not fully appreciate or understand the gift of what was once given into fully applying myself to the opportunities there are now.

            I wonder about this too Karim, especially in places like Europe where there is yet something like the above flourishing. What does it take for these things to be created? For now, all I can see is to work to try and improve my standards and capabilities of serving and working, and also to take head of the the lessons of Friendship Case and see how I nourish or stifle friendship. I remember being pretty blown away by realising how the ETs were showing the humans the strength and importance of the bond between them, like it was a protective force in itself.

          • Priya March 19, 2015 at 8:07 am

            I know what you mean Christos, Karim, how the way for new seekers is much more difficult now than it was for us without an esoteric school to help navigate the way. So many lessons to learn about valuing and making good use of what has been given, but also taking care of and protecting it as a personal responsibility.

            I don’t think things can never be as they once were, but we still have the chance to do the work and help others, and get involved in projects like ASK & Silent Pines which have so much potential and could pave the way for things we can’t even imagine. I feel by doing whatever we can to support what’s currently underway, new possibilities and opportunities could open up for us and others.

          • Olga March 20, 2015 at 2:05 pm

            I really liked what you said Priya. So many lessons indeed.

            And so, it is up to us now to make use of the opportunities that are in front of us and prepare the way for the future. I feel very fortunate to be part of Silent Pines Retreat, I really have no words to share what it has done for me, the strength I have gained, the egos I have seen, and the light I have reached towards are all priceless gifts I could have only found here.

            In ancient Greece, some set an extra seat for Zeus at the table, thinking he would often come by in disguise as a beggar. I have often found that amazing opportunities can sometimes appear to be in one disguise or another and so its always worth keeping ourselves open to whatever is happening around. Perhaps there is no distinct esoteric school, but I have no doubt that the divine are stirring things around for those who pay attention. What we do now can bring a massive difference, even if the horizon is not yet in reach. Only time will tell.

        • Daniel L February 21, 2015 at 4:35 am - Reply

          Hey Christos I share your pain brother. I had a group in my home town for years, and I always took it for granted, it was only in the last year and a half or so of its existence did I take it seriously and try to make the most of the opportunity. Then it all finished. I was really lost and slowly began to see how I had so badly wasted that opportunity, an opportunity I may never have again in my existence.

        • Julian Kingman February 21, 2015 at 3:49 pm - Reply

          Christos, I find what you said about the organization so pertinent “I had really felt home.”
          So few people have a genuine interest in changing their own negativity, and to be around people that are doing the same thing, people that can be inspiring examples, or that can challenge you in a caring way, is such an awesome experience. There’s so much that’s possible in a group like that that can’t even be imagined… It’s like Jesus says in the bible “For where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I among them”. I hope the world can be a safe place again for such groups and organizations, so people can benefit from coming together in that way.
          These days, if I come across one person who is genuinely trying to change, it brings me tears of joy. At the same time, I see how difficult it will be for such a person now, to actually learn the techniques properly, overcome the wealth of misinformation in the world, and shake off enough lethargy to experience something out of the ordinary that will push them further.

  10. G February 13, 2015 at 7:09 pm - Reply

    Although it is a dire situation, we also have an unexpected opportunity to change our approach. If what we were doing wasn’t working, I am so grateful to know.

    In my opinion, we are much better off than we were last week, when things were just as bad, but we had no idea. Then, it was tragic. Now there is hope.

    In my previous post, I wanted to add that the role that we as individuals and as a community may have played in this is just one thing I am exploring. I am only starting to investigate this and want to keep an open mind.

    I cannot help but feel intrigued and want to know more about what has happened and what could free the light. It has inspired me deeply to gain a direct understanding of this and to strengthen my capacity to find answers directly, using those techniques that Mark taught us.

    • Olga February 14, 2015 at 5:14 am - Reply

      I also believe this unexpected discussion has given reason to pause and reflect, to open minds and to change our ways.

      I admit I have walked into it a bit weary of the tragedy that is gripping all seekers around the world, as well as the light itself.

      But it is a very interesting thing how this discussion has brought a new light onto the matter, perhaps still murky, but through taking any sorts of steps of attention and action it seems like the clouds of dust are lifting away and increments of understanding begin to shine in.

      Albeit painful, and not always what we expect, but it is a miraculous thing if through this opportunity we come to understand more and build a new future for ourselves and for light in the world.

    • Maria February 14, 2015 at 9:48 am - Reply

      “In my opinion, we are much better off than we were last week, when things were just as bad, but we had no idea. Then, it was tragic. Now there is hope.”
      Thank you for this G.
      That’s exactly how I deeply feel too, and this heals my heart.

      Knowing about the tragedy of these moments awakes me from my lethargy, shakes my heart strongly and gives me the inner need to try to reflect and understand my mistakes and to focus more dedicated and properly in my inner work, to try to have a deeper connection with the Divine in me.
      And I agree with Julian Kingam that in any situation in our day we have the opportunity to learn, if we just try to be there and opened to learn, even for moments. Personally that’s how I have found beauty and inspiration in very mundane duties and events otherwise, and that helped me to give sense to my day and to be able to do them.

      I deeply feel that in these crucial moments if we all do properly what we can and have to esoterically from the position that each of us is, we can conducive so the light may get freed and able to shine again for all the world. And that’s what I wish deeply from my heart.

      Mark says: “…some people already know of this work and therefore have an opportunity, but they would have to use it for it to make a difference. I feel this is my responsibility and where I have to focus on.

    • Layla February 14, 2015 at 4:22 pm - Reply

      “I cannot help but feel intrigued and want to know more about what has happened and what could free the light. It has inspired me deeply to gain a direct understanding of this and to strengthen my capacity to find answers directly, using those techniques that Mark taught us.”

      G, I hope this feeling and inspiration is contagious 🙂

      I feel that unless we get to the heart of it, things repeat, as they just have, and have before.

      I like the way you said to keep an open mind too, as judgements, ideas and beliefs hinder the opportunity to grasp the understanding that can bring about the right type of action and the change for the good, as I have found already.

      Thanks for the inspiration and sharing!

      • Frostee Seagull February 16, 2015 at 4:57 am - Reply

        Mark has hit the nail on the head at the right time as always. His advice could not have come at a better time as I concur with the example in his video where he states that he had come across situations where students are “picking and choosing their preferred practice.”

        Julian you write – I’ve noticed that by both following (and asking for) guidance, and by working on the things that are most hindering me, interesting things happen in my life and work, even if I’m in situations that on the surface are not the most conducive for the work, or that seem like bad situations.

        At least you are on the right track as

        . Presumption and assumption are the worst ….
        NOTE: We all know the “don;y ASS – U – ME: parody.

        one person claiming he is doing his daily meditation that includes the I A O E U M S vocal recitation. He then adds the KRIM mantra.
        Question: I asked him, where is you daily observation, that is, have you remotely observed yourself and viewed your work behaviour with your customers, Were you patient, did you talk down to people, did you roll your eyes at customers etc.
        Reply: Oh yeah, I have allowed (NOT observed) for the ego’s and have done a meditation practice that involves (4 x separate practices) yet will not intrinsically observe his own behaviour. Through his lack of detail I have increased mine in regards to daily observation.

        Mark would teach us the following:
        ‘when you think you are doing really well in the work … watch out . as you are in fact doing
        badly. When you think you are doing really badly, you are in fact doing well.

        Julian you are an example of the latter, as you write ” Conversely, I’ve been in situations that you would think are ideal for the work, where very little happens. For me realizing this has made me more adaptable, ….. makes me ponder the deeper meaning of sacrifice that Mark talks about …. and how maybe I don’t fully understand all that it entails.

        You may not “understand all that it entails.” but you are way ahead of the one who truly believed he is profoundly meditating and using his own words ” I am KRIM ing my ego’s away”.

        He is fact doing quite badly as he refuses to observe his day remotely and without prejudice and steadfastly believes that the recitation of vowel sounds will automatically annihilate the ego’s.”

  11. Paty February 13, 2015 at 8:53 am - Reply

    Thank you Mark for this valuable and precious video on how to work – thank you also for your further comments.

    There has been a lot brought up here, much to reflect and act upon.

    I have been reading everyone’s contributions and I am grateful that this community exists at all.

    We all have varying degrees of understanding, experience and also capacities to express our thoughts and experiences via the written word. Thank you all I really appreciate this.

  12. Alexandros February 12, 2015 at 10:16 am - Reply

    This is what we want in our daily lives, many thanks for this video which speaks nowadays.
    Your talk gives hope and optimism to the war against daily darkness. Thank you very much and I am here to support you

  13. Vadim February 10, 2015 at 5:12 pm - Reply

    Hello Mark,

    It was interesting to read your comments about the current situation we are in.

    I don`t want to drag your words out of the overall context, but it feels appropriate to mention that in regards to “…it’s a very sad situation for all those who could potentially do this work, but who don’t have the opportunity to find it.” perhaps I can help you with this.

    You have a page on your website now where 2 of your books are translated in Chinese language, if you are interested I can send you my translations of 2 of your books in Russian language, which is also quite popular in the world.

    Also I am willing to gradually translate in Russian your other works too – giving you all my work completely for free, and without asking anything in return. You can do with my translations whatever you want.

    My only condition is that I work directly with you, without any intermediaries.

    Please let me know if you are interested,

    Thank you,


  14. Fotis February 9, 2015 at 11:06 am - Reply

    Your new released videos and articles brought up a lot stimulus for deep reflections and rise up more questions to me. It’s also really encouraging to read all these and that you are able to answer some questions. It’s more clear to me now that no matter what the state of humanity is nowadays, it’s a great opportunity for those who have access to this teachings to practice it and rises a great responsibility too, these to be spread and reach those who are looking for them.

    Thank you!

  15. Matthew February 9, 2015 at 4:16 am - Reply

    Thanks Mark for sharing this talk. I’ve read a transcript before but somehow the message was so much more immediate hearing it spoken. A real call to arms on the need to remember to observe and remove egos. It’s so easy to forget to do this consistently and let it slide but it is something so crucial to get right. This talk really brings home how anything else we may do spiritually will be to no avail if we don’t make this the priority throughout the day. Thanks for the timely inspiration to make the effort to do this practice seriously.

  16. Lila February 8, 2015 at 9:09 am - Reply

    Thank you Mark for this video! It is a very strong help for me!!

  17. Shannon February 8, 2015 at 6:36 am - Reply

    Thank you so much, Mark, for sharing this video from so long ago. I have never seen it, and I feel I have greatly benefited from seeing it now. It has been of great concern to me that, while recently I have been hit with egos that have been hidden, strong egos that overrun me in my attempts to be clear, the last thing on my mind has been to apply the death. How could this be? I do practices, meditation, mantras, retrospection, etc., trying to get clear. But this most important of practices somehow “slips my mind.” The power of the egos to obscure the right course of action is great. I’m grateful for this reminder, and while I laugh at myself for being so off-track, I also feel strength in remembering this simple practice of observing and applying the death as something I can do effectively — I just needed a kick to wake me up. Thank you again!

  18. Priya February 7, 2015 at 5:28 am - Reply

    This is such a profound and important talk, it really had me glued the whole way through. I remember reading a transcript of the talk some time ago, but seeing the actual video brings much more vividness to the message.

    I really appreciate you sharing this with us and am so glad I got to see it.

  19. Jenny February 6, 2015 at 10:45 pm - Reply

    So happy you uploaded this talk, Mark. Gosh, it’s hard to believe it was recorded 10 years ago and yet I find what you shared so fresh and relevant in every way today.

    I was wondering if you minded commenting more on apathy sometime (or maybe that’s a topic for a whole other video… 🙂 ). Maybe I don’t even mean apathy, but this feeling of being jaded or a very strong sense of inertia. Knowing what needs doing, understanding the consequences of doing or not doing certain things, and still feeling jaded or maybe just lacking in energy in terms of applying yourself towards what’s right? Like when it seems that nothing in the world has the capacity to move/motivate a person even though the overall understanding and significance of inaction/lack of change is fully there and even when you have the foreknowledge through certain experiences to know exactly what awaits you and yet you feel stumped to do anything about it. It seems like it’s something humanity is facing on a large scale, but it’s also something I’m struggling to understand more on a personal level too. Would love to hear you talk more about this sometime.

    • BelsebuubDotCom February 7, 2015 at 8:44 am - Reply

      When the light is contained within the walls of a prison, no one sees, even if they have made themselves eyes. And when the light does not shine, everything in the world withers and dies.

      Without a source, no one drinks water, and those who are thirsty can never quench their thirst.

      The inner law matches the outer law, and what is for a person is for the world.


      • Michael E February 7, 2015 at 5:32 pm - Reply

        Thank you so much for posting these recent videos Mark and for your comment. It really highlights what a responsibility each of us has not just towards our own awakening, but also to humanity.

      • Jenny February 8, 2015 at 6:30 am - Reply

        Thanks for sharing this, Mark — I really appreciate it.

        • Zorana February 9, 2015 at 2:01 am - Reply

          Jenny, thank you for asking this question. I feel you captured the struggle in words so well and I personally found this so important to read.

          And, of course, very grateful for the answer, Mark.

          • Paty February 13, 2015 at 9:34 pm

            Yes, I agree Zorana, I have been feeling much the same as everyone else. Now I understand things a lot better.
            Thanks Jenny for this.

        • Roy February 14, 2015 at 11:22 am - Reply

          I’m too very glad you’ve asked Jenny. It opened up this whole discussion and helped me and from what I can read everyone so much.

          It really reminds me of what is described in Matthew 7:7 from the bible.
          “Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.”

      • DavidH February 9, 2015 at 9:23 am - Reply

        Thanks for the question Jenny and for your reply Mark.

        Mark, it seems like the light being in a prison and the negative weight of the world all around us that has rejected the light makes it harder now than ever before to do the work? I understand the work has been driven underground numerous times before throughout history but if the Mayan calendar end date of 21 Dec 2012 was, as you have said at the time, the tipping point when darkness becomes greater than the light was that the case also in the past or is the situation far more dire now? It seems there must still be a chance for individuals interested hence your continuing encouragement and guidance to do the work as per the latest videos posted? Any further comment greatly appreciated!

        • BelsebuubDotCom February 9, 2015 at 9:59 am - Reply

          Yes, it will be virtually impossible at this time for anyone, but it may not stay like that. This has not been driven underground today, it is gone. That date was an estimate based upon reaserch at the time, it was not from an esoteric experience, so it could have crossed the line before then. What I do know from experience though is that darkness has suceeded in gaining a total grip over humanity and it will continue to be that way until the end of the human race. There is a power that can overcome it, but as I said, it is imprisoned. The situation has never been more dire, some people already know of this work and therefore have an opportunity, but they would have to use it for it to make a difference. I’m not releasing new books or articles at the moment, the latest version of the Peace of the Spirit within book has been left unpublished for almost a year. The videos from 2002 to 2006 have been released as a record, it’s a very sad situation for all those who could potentially do this work, but who don’t have the opportunity to find it.

          • Priya February 9, 2015 at 11:27 am

            It seems if we cannot free the light from the prison then everything else falls away. The light is the last hope.

            Thank you Mark for explaining the reality of the situation. If there has ever been a deciding and defining moment for us as individuals, it feels like it is upon us now.

            I would like to help change this dire situation and feel strongly the need to properly dedicate myself to it, and pray for a lot of strength and inner guidance to anyone else who feels the same.

          • Vida February 9, 2015 at 2:06 pm

            This is very sad to hear. I guess I have to wonder, for those that do know about the work, how do we make a difference? How can we push past all of the illusions that make it feel like we have time and that it’s acceptable to keep making mistakes and waste opportunities. I know that it must be possible, and the answer is most likely a ‘just get to it’ kind of thing but it feels extremely difficult to make a reality. I also want to help change this situation, for the world and for myself, but when I really look at my life, the reality of it all is that I only see how I am adding to the darkness instead of the light in not making the kinds of efforts required and I’m at a loss as to how to really change that, how to actually make it happen.

          • Justin February 9, 2015 at 2:26 pm

            Thank you Mark for sharing this. Like others, I find it gives a lot to reflect on and also it leaves me feeling quite shaken, to think of how dire the situation is.

            It makes me feel keenly my own failings and also a great want to find a way past the spiritual inertia of the egos, which seems like such an immense obstacle.

            Is there anything we as individuals could do to help change the situation, to help release the light?

          • Layla February 9, 2015 at 2:28 pm

            The light is the only hope, and all other hope rests upon it and yet its imprisoned by the weakness that has grown from forgetfulness and has in itself become weak.

            Like Priya I also feel the need to properly dedicate myself to bring the light out and help it shine. Suffering from the lack of light, all things wither and die, without the source, even those who were at the spring will not be able to drink.

            Thank you Mark very much for your replies!

          • Olga February 9, 2015 at 3:04 pm

            After reading your comment Mark, I have never felt it more urgent to break down the prison inside of us. Our own egos are holding us back so much, threatening everything within to wither against the walls of our prison, but also preventing the light from reaching the world and helping many more people to access the work, without which they too suffer.

            If you can comment any more, regarding anything that can be done, in terms of what is most important, if there is anything lacking, regarding ways we can help you, your work to reach people, or how to gather our forces for light, it would be greatly appreciated.

          • DavidH February 9, 2015 at 3:26 pm

            Thank you Mark for the further answer, this is very serious, your words hit me like a tonne of bricks to pick my socks up and improve my inner work. I feel the same as what Priya said; very well said Priya.

            I have been reflecting on what makes up the walls of the prison the light is in. It is bottled up in each of us of course and its down to each individual who knows what to do to actually do it and so become vehicles for the light. It’s the darkness that has enveloped the world and made the work the least popular thing for the majority and which has successfully attacked it in all sorts of ways such as through the anti-cult movement which in turn makes it a very hard environment to even promote these teachings. And I’m guessing perhaps another part is a lack of resources. If it was more popular then more resources would flow to it and what a different world it could be then. Instead we have motor racing and celebrity culture etc etc. Mark, does the above outline the prison or is there something else to it?

            More than those interested in the work trying to address all the above I feel like there would still need to be some divine intervention to help tip the balance. I remember back in 2007 you said there was more help in these times. A talk you gave in 2008 or 2009 was about how good doesn’t always win (how prophetic considering the ensuing demise of The Gnostic Movement) and that is the case now with the light currently imprisoned yet you’ve indicated above the current situation for the light may not stay like it is. Is there anything else you can elaborate on that will free the light from its prison for this humanity? I truly hope things can be turned around.

          • Dara February 9, 2015 at 3:28 pm

            Thanks for your comments, Mark, between these and the video, it’s really helped to bring home to me how urgent the situation is for each of us as individuals and for humanity.

            Whenever you’ve spoken about the life review where we are shown our mistakes, the time we’ve wasted, the ways we’ve gone off track–it strikes such an uncomfortable chord with me, I feel like I must have been through this many times before and really don’t want to go through it again.

            I think that’s a good point about using this as a motivation for why we aim to observe, practice the death, and attain silence as consistently as possible throughout the day.

            I also really found the reminder helpful that no matter what level of clarity we find ourselves in, it’s just a matter of applying the death and patiently working on balancing our energies.

            The world feels so dark right now; I pray as well that the light can be rescued from imprisonment, that those of us who have an understanding of the teachings can implement them properly, and that the people who are searching but haven’t found these teachings yet will get the opportunity in the future.

          • Christos February 9, 2015 at 4:03 pm

            Thank you very much for your answers Mark.

            Is there a way that an individual or a group of dedicated individuals could help break through this impossibility of others getting the work? How could this power that is imprisoned be freed, Mark?

            Thanks for everything you do.

          • Gabrielle February 9, 2015 at 5:36 pm

            This is very tragic. Thank you for sharing this and putting the situation into perspective.

          • Ella February 9, 2015 at 8:11 pm

            Thank you Mark for speaking clearly like this. I know it is ultimately important, but it’s also so hard to hear. I feel such fear when I think of the desperate plight of humanity and its fate, myself as one of the mass. And trying to over come this to find strength in faith seems painfully elusive. It is so strange that the despondency or apathy that Jenny articulated so well is such a common state when being among those who can see a bit of the truth of life, and having the chance to do ‘the work’.

            You mention that it may not always stay like this, being almost impossible for anyone to free themselves. Can you say more to help understand this? Where can we look to for hope? What is this power that is imprisoned, can it be freed? Does this ticking time bomb relate to our actions, so there’s a way we can help create more time, more of a chance, for ourselves and others?

            Like Priya said, I too yearn to apply myself to inner change, but the reality is that I feel mundanity and darkness is actually what governs my life.

            My questions may be naive and unable to be answered. But thank you so much for your posts here so far.

          • Jon February 10, 2015 at 12:59 am

            I feel incredibly blessed to be one of those who know the work and have the opportunity now to do it. There’s a great responsibility in this.

            Mark, what you said “The inner law matches the outer law, and what is for a person is for the world.” It seems that we need to make the light shine from ourselves in order for it to shine in the world?

          • Geraldine February 10, 2015 at 1:51 am

            Hi Mark,

            Since reading your comment on Sunday, I have tried to understand a bit better what are the walls of the prison you mention, and how to break them away to let the Light shine.
            At first all I could feel was helplessness and as if my heart had been enveloped in ice and surrounded by sadness for the world, for everyone who knows about this work and for me. How can there be hope and movement forward if the Light itself cannot shine? As you said, no source means no water for everyone.

            I was very thankful yesterday to read your second comment, as it provided much more clues as to what direction I felt I needed in order to help break the walls, even if it is brick by brick. If for a year, a book has not been released, it’s because in the state of things at the moment it cannot. For so many years, each time you give something to the world, the original message is taken away, abused, changed and pretty much lost in materialistic and self-interest. Thanks to Lara’s pointing it out from research, it is clear that even when a translator adds a word to a teaching given by Jesus, the whole meaning is changed and the repercussions are terrible. It can change the direction of the message entirely, and mislead people. So how could a message go out when the outcome is known in advance to what will happen to it? It is really contained within walls of a prison. I do find hope in your words that “There is a power that can overcome it, but as I said, it is imprisoned.” as a jail can be broken with help from others.

            I’m very thankful for Jenny to have asked her question, as well as David and that you answered both of them. Sometimes I think I can get lost in my own world, my inner work so speak, and forget that I am part of the whole machine contributing to this world. And it helps to put things back into perspective.

          • Lucia February 10, 2015 at 11:06 am

            Thank you very much Mark for the answers and Jenny and David for your questions . I can feel all these things too, and in my own life as well. I even feel like because the Light is so weak nowadays, all those who really try to do this work need to somehow gather and create a conducive environment for doing this work, because the general life is so opposed to it that when one tries to do it in the world, he gets literally swept away by all the mundane forces and even the little strength that was there is lost. It is strange because I didn’t feel it like that about 10 years ago. At that time I felt its ultimately all internal, and so wherever we are, the work can be done. But now I feel like the extra strength and gathering of forces is needed in order to built some sort of environment that would lift the consciousness at least a bit and make the work possible for those who would join.

            Also thank you Geraldine for your thoughts on why publishing more works may be hindered at the moment. I never thought about it that way, and it made me realize how difficult things must be for somebody who has the knowledge and insight and yet, due to the forces around, has his hands tied.

          • Michael E February 10, 2015 at 12:27 pm

            Thank you so much Mark for your reply. I feel it is the “wake up” call that we all need to understand the dire reality of our situation. What particularly struck me is your comment “this has not been driven underground today, it is gone”. Is is very clear that although some of us know the theory about how to practice these teachings, a true esoteric brotherhood of those with higher spiritual knowledge no longer exists in the world.

            At the moment, it feels like those of us with the theoretical knowledge of these teachings are the equivalent of cleaners in a house, sweeping up the brick dust in the corner of a room, while the rest of the house (and the world) is being demolished by a highly organised destruction team.

            @Priya – your comment also struck me: “If there has ever been a deciding and defining moment for us as individuals, it feels like it is upon us now”. I agree wholeheartedly that for those of us who know about the work, the time has long since arrived for us to put theory into action and make the necessary changes within ourselves and the world for the light to shine again. A solid beam of light in otherwise total darkness can still serve as a guidance for those who are searching. I hope and pray that we will not finish up among the majority of humanity, facing the immense pain of regret when reflecting upon a life wasted.

          • Jenny February 10, 2015 at 1:53 pm

            Thank you for your comments Mark which have given deep insight into the tragic state of Light in the world.

            Things have felt off to me, and have been noticing it more and more recently. The insights you have shared explains a lot.

            I deeply value the work you do and have done to bring the opportunity of light for humanity. It’s crucial for there to be light in the world and I see and understand more and more how important it is that the light is supported internally and externally so it can exist properly.

            Your words have inspired a very deep and serious reflection for me. All of this has been really helpful and has renewed me with a much needed determination and focus for my efforts to work for light internally and externally.

          • Martin February 11, 2015 at 4:07 am

            Thanks Mark, that explains a lot.

          • Jenny February 11, 2015 at 5:44 am

            Thank you for sharing more, Mark. Both your responses confirmed what I’d been feeling. I guess I asked because I wanted to know if there is anything more/different to be done that can shake this feeling off enough to make a difference? I wish I knew how to somehow make that superhuman effort to transcend this and stop being a sitting duck…

          • Karim February 11, 2015 at 11:44 am

            Thanks for these messages Mark. Shedding light on the state of things. Like others have expressed I too pray for the best and ask what can be done to allow the light to manifest?

            I feel action is needed for any change to happen.

          • Maria February 11, 2015 at 2:10 pm

            Thank you for your comments Mark.

            Thank you Jenny and David for sharing your questions.

            It’s really sad and gives much pain to hear how bad and tragic the state we are running through is right now.
            But also your words Mark are very strong and they give the need and opportunity to pray and reflect on them and to take my responsibility towards trying to get out of my apathy and inertly and to do more than my best.

            Thank you deeply for this help and for your continues help through your site.

          • Steve February 11, 2015 at 3:24 pm

            By reading this thread it has put the current situation into place for me and is pointing me to understand it in a deeper way. The comments Jenny made sounded a note with me and the questions and answers help to show how this important information always seems to get stopped somehow, cornered, imprisoned as Mark said so it can’t get out there for all the people keenly waiting for something to help them in the search for truth but there seems like a ray of hope and it requires action to make it happen both in the inner world and the outer world, this constant action is something I’ve struggled with as well and like Mark said it dies out if the efforts not there, it’s like it’s a spiritual flame a flame that needs to have it’s fuel so it can be sustained but also protected from the wind so it doesn’t get blown out.

            Thanks Mark, Jenny & everyone for this sharing of understanding.

          • Layla February 11, 2015 at 5:02 pm

            Geraldine your point about plagiarism I feel is really important.

            It is a very serious matter, and though people water it down by excusing it with ideas that spirituality doesn’t belong to anyone and therefore they can do what they will with it, they in fact are very mistaken and/or lacking the experience of real spirituality to understand the full gravity of it.

            Plagiarism does imprison spirituality, for the seeker and the teacher, locking one outside and the other inside, one unable to receive, the other unable to give, one lost in a labyrinth of half truths and misinformation, the other pushed out and abused. As people we may forget our responsibility towards what we do, or what we know, and perhaps what we are able to do, but to someone who takes the responsibility of helping people spiritual very seriously, then they have to protect it so that it doesn’t get fragmented, stolen and vandalized because in the end spirituality will be the most important thing a person will have and the only thing they can take with them, both for this human race and for the next.

            For anyone practicing spirituality, this is a responsibility we each have, even though sometimes it seems like someone else’s responsibility or perhaps we may not know where to start or what to do.

            But there is so much that can be done, if we are able to direct our focus, time and energy towards it. We may just find that we are all holding part of that key to free the light in the world. What we set our heart on, that’s where our will is.

          • G February 11, 2015 at 5:33 pm

            I think like a lot of you, these new insights have led to much reflection. I think it is worthwhile to reflect on how we got to this place.

            We know there our groups with active agendas to imprison the light. However, I cannot help but think that we must have missed the ball at some point for this to happen.

            Maybe I am wrong, but if we, as a community and individuals, are the ones who bare the responsibility to protect the light, then it is worth trying to understand what went wrong.

            If the light were miraculously freed tomorrow, how would we be able to protect it and nurture it any differently than before?

            My heart is with this humanity, just like yours, and I hope that every one of our brothers and sisters who are interested, willing, and able will have the opportunity to do this work.

            But, if I were a Divine Being with the ability to bring it back, would I be able to say with any certainty that this would be a good move? Would it be a good investment in resources, time, attention, or whatever must be required for them to give us these opportunities?

            I feel like, if we want the light to be freed, we need to show this through our sought understanding, repentance, and actions. We need to show that we are taking steps to prepare ourselves to properly fulfill these duties, whatever may be needed. If we have not fulfilled our duties, we need to understand this very clearly so that we can make steps to change and show we will not allow it to happen again.

          • Jenny February 11, 2015 at 6:19 pm

            I just wanted to re-phrase my last comment a little. I heard it said before that some beings have more of this inertia than others. I know there’s a reason for everything, but I am wondering if/how that level of inner drive can be changed? How does one gather enough forces/energy to make that superhuman effort?

          • Olga February 12, 2015 at 1:38 am

            It’s been really helpful to read every person’s comments. Its definitely triggered a lot of reflection and some what of a push towards a potentially higher way of being. So thank you all for your thoughts and reflections.

            Its certainly interesting how the terrible state of things in the world and the forces against the spirit is a reflection of the individual and the individual’s interest upon the spirit. And surely if we were to rise up, a percentage of the world would rise up in light and we could make a difference.

            At this point the world is destroying the spiritual, and mocking the most sacred thing in one’s life.

            As Layla said: ”in the end spirituality will be the most important thing a person will have and the only thing they can take with them, both for this human race and for the next.”

            How paralyzing it feels to be in a time in which the very essence of the spirituality I love is hacked to pieces.

            What can be done about this? What can rise against the forces that downgrade the truly spiritual? Can there be a wider scale education against plagiarism on spiritual authors? What forces will be able to put a stop to this in order to protect the teaching of light and help it spread?

            I echo the need and urgency to greatly increase the light inside of myself which would help me become more in tune in with the light of the world in a greater capacity, because I would be living with the light.

            I have noticed that many many things help to soak me in that light, and leave me feeling the vibrations of light for longer periods. I have noticed that right after a spiritual activity or prayer, I will not waste the feelings of the light right away, and am much more less likely to fall into mundane things. Its only after a longer time away from a closeness with something spiritual that I wander into weakness. So an increase in anything to be in the light, will obviously help us stay amid the essence of light for longer and more continuous periods.

          • Vida February 12, 2015 at 2:33 am

            Layla and G,

            Your comments have really struck a deep chord for me. Speaking openly, for the past several months, since the issue of plagiarism and copyright infringement have come to forefront, I have felt this continuous nudge of how important it is, in terms of restoring the integrity of the light by reporting instances of those infringements.

            Unfortunately, for me personally, I feel like I let myself put that nudge on the back burner to engage in other activities which were for the light but not making as much effort as I could have in protecting it, which I feel I sort of blinded myself from the obvious truth that if the light is not protected, at all times, all other activities for the light without that light are for nothing.

            I can see the direct trail of self-deception that has led to this for myself personally, and in answer to your hypothetical question – “But, if I were a Divine Being with the ability to bring it back, would I be able to say with any certainty that this would be a good move? Would it be a good investment in resources, time, attention, or whatever must be required for them to give us these opportunities? ” if I look at just myself personally, I would have to answer that it wouldn’t be a good investment at all.

            To be even more honest, I am not sure I could even guarantee that it wouldn’t happen again for me personally. I find it so difficult to not slip back constantly into a lack of strength and will to do this work. In the same vein as what Jenny has just mentioned wondering about how that inner level can be changed to make those superhuman efforts – I wonder that as well. But it must be possible, and I pray that a great mercy can be shown so that the opportunity is still there for all of us who want to do this work, to try to fulfill our duties, and make those efforts and overcome these obstacles so that not all hope is lost.

          • Matthew February 12, 2015 at 3:52 am

            Thanks very much for sharing your comments and illuminating this issue for us Mark.

            Your comments helped to dispel the darkness within me and gave me a renewed strength. Both what you said and the effect it had expressed the same thing: we are dependent on receiving the source of light to be able to do this work and overcome the forces of darkness. And to receive ourselves, we must do what we can to enable humanity to receive from that source.

            If the sun were blocked out on this planet, people could still turn on their lights, but they could never replace daylight, and life on earth would wither and die. No other light has the same strength and properties as the sun which sustains all life. Without it, darkness would cover the earth, everyone would walk in darkness, and that darkness would be too great for any human being to overcome. People would die out no matter what they might try to do themselves.

            I realised how important the spiritual sustenance I gained from your comments were to me, and the profound impact it had, and yet the world is not receiving this, because you are not able to dispense it. People are thirsty but cannot access the ‘living water’ to drink.

            It seems that looking at ourselves in isolation while forgetting to support the source we all depend on for spiritual nourishment will only bring bad results for ourselves and humanity.

            But like you said, it doesn’t have to stay this way.

          • Layla February 12, 2015 at 6:46 am

            Those are really important question G, “But, if I were a Divine Being with the ability to bring it back, would I be able to say with any certainty that this would be a good move? Would it be a good investment in resources, time, attention, or whatever must be required for them to give us these opportunities?

            I feel the question of certainty can only be answered by our actions, both inward and outwardly in the world, but I feel that if we can’t protect the light within us, how are we able to protect the light in the world? How can light invest in light that is weak and flailing, where it is unprotected and left to whither, where it is given up for the temporary? There would have to be the right type of actions inwardly for any certainty of investing the future of the light of the world’s efforts, otherwise it will itself be weakened and harmed, if it hasn’t been already.

            We would have to be heading in the same direction and want the same thing, otherwise the sheer nature of the pull towards other things is where darkness looms, divides, weakens and destroys.

            I really appreciate your sincerity and care, thanks very much for sharing such valuable insights from your persepective as well as everyone else’s comments here. I think the situation does need a lot of reflection, as Vida has said, its all too easy to let things slip away, if we don’t get to the root cause of it.

          • Anne Linn February 12, 2015 at 7:24 am

            “If the light were miraculously freed tomorrow, how would we be able to protect it and nurture it any differently than before?”

            This makes me reflect. I hope I would be able to follow my inner guide, more than the voices of fear that makes me push and force myself to do things, just because I think I should. There is a sense of love to the inner guide, and I wonder if that is the light speaking.

            I pray I would be able to protect the light because of love. I pray I would have courage.

            Thanks everyone for your comments, and thank you Mark. I don’t want to come to the end of my life, and wonder what would have happened if I hadn’t held back. I feel I’m holding back, and I yearn to let go and fully dedicate myself to following the divine, even as it brings up a lot of fear in me.

          • Michael E February 12, 2015 at 12:15 pm

            Thank you again Mark for giving us such a push to reflect on both our own actions and inactivity. And thanks Jenny and David for starting off the discussion with your questions.

            @Layla – What you have reflected upon really strikes a chord with me. It’s so easy to be the “happy smiling bystanders” that Mark mentioned in a previous article, rather than “revolutionary warriors of light”. I think the time has come to transform ourselves from merely being religious believers and to become inner revolutionaries, who truly put theoretical knowledge into action. What you said about the issue of plagiarism is a case in point – a united effort can make a great difference. Yet it’s easy for us to assume that someone else is doing it, in order to excuse ourselves from taking action – the classic “bystander apathy” referred to in conventional psychology.

            @Vida – I think you and Layla made some good points about taking the correct type of action too. I’ve seen this tendency within myself to plan with the mind what will be useful, rather than following the inner guide. This goes back to Mark’s point that “what is for a person is for the world”. It’s clear that we can easily deceive ourselves into thinking we’re really working hard by being active externally, while the all-important internal change is neglected. This has the effect of weakening us and taking away the internal guidance and consciousness that we each depend upon and which is the only source of light within us.

            I feel this prompt to change old habits has come at just the right time. It has given me a renewed strength to do the work correctly, starting with that core of personal experience and fighting for the light within, so that I can express it within the world through correct action. Each day I pray for continued strength to make this goal not just a fleeting thought that passes and decays along with my physical body, but to make it a permanent way of life and ultimately change the outcome of my life.

          • Michael E February 12, 2015 at 12:26 pm

            Thanks also G for those useful reflections. I agree – it’s easy enough to ask for another chance when faced with a dire situation, but it’s another thing to correct our actions once that help is given, so that the same mistakes are not just repeated over and over again.

          • Olga February 12, 2015 at 2:04 pm

            Your words are very strong and accurate G.

            How have we gotten to this place? Where and at what point did we go wrong as individuals who know more about this work than anyone else? And would it all happen again if the light was miraculously returned?

            I also pray that actions,love and repentance can move me towards the right place.

          • Roy February 13, 2015 at 12:04 am

            Thanks so much Mark for your comments and clarification. Also the comments others have posted have helped me enormously and lead me to reflect more deeply on the importance of these teachings in the world and on a personal level.

            You bring up good points to consider G, and as we all know, situations, reactions repeat unless we change within. I feel you are spot on and question if I would respond differently when the light was brought back tomorrow and needs to be protected. Do I really have the courage to face those who are opposing the light and more so, can I face the inner states that come up when there is conflict and things get rough? I feel I need to gain understanding in where I stand, what I can do and take things from there with faith and the overall good in mind.

          • Jordan February 13, 2015 at 3:19 am

            Thank you Mark for putting into words what is going on, and good work Jenny on opening the floodgates here 🙂

            Personally speaking, I believe that while the fight against plagiarism is a very, very important one, I do not believe that this is what is imprisioning the light, nor just by fighting it will the light be freed. Not that anyone is necessarily advocating this view/point directly, but just saying, more is needed.

            Mark gave one clue: “There is a power that can overcome it, but as I said, it is imprisoned. The situation has never been more dire, some people already know of this work and therefore have an opportunity, but they would have to use it for it to make a difference.”

            In my opinion, it would be of utmost importance to fight for the light to be freed both within and in the external world; to me, that means to use and do the work, and also to support the light, because the other clues given: “The inner law matches the outer law, and what is for a person is for the world.” and “when the light does not shine, everything in the world withers and dies.” also supports this. I believe that these points taken together show that as part of doing the work, if the light is not supported and allowed to shine both within and externally, we’ve already lost the battle before it’s even started.

          • Layla February 13, 2015 at 8:23 am

            Jordan, I agree with you in what you’ve said and thanks for expanding on the situation with your understanding, and those shared by everyone else here.

            “In my opinion, it would be of utmost importance to fight for the light to be freed both within and in the external world; to me, that means to use and do the work, and also to support the light, because the other clues given: “The inner law matches the outer law, and what is for a person is for the world.” and “when the light does not shine, everything in the world withers and dies.” also supports this. I believe that these points taken together show that as part of doing the work, if the light is not supported and allowed to shine both within and externally, we’ve already lost the battle before it’s even started.”

            It’s difficult to understand the reality of this situation, and that’s where talking about it here has been really helpful and expanded on the understanding needed to take the steps towards that support, which is not just a momentary resolve, but something that is part of us.

            Thank you very much Mark for expressing everything you have, and thank you Jenny for your honesty of heart that opened up the opportunity of learning for all of us.

          • James N February 13, 2015 at 8:40 am

            Thank you so much Mark for your insights. I must admit that I do feel great sadness for the state of things here – I feel sadness and hopelessness for humanity, myself included.

            I want to help but don’t really know how. I do sense a change/shift that I did not feel 5 years ago.

            If you were to ask help of me Mark I would do it. My heart truly is filled with gratitude & love for you & all you have done for the world. Your work & insights give strength in times of weakness, shame and sadness.

            If there is something more we can do in these times to help you & Lara and help for humanity please advise. I know the greatest help is the work upon ones self to let the light shine, just seems so hard to get any momentum.

            Thank you.

          • Christos February 13, 2015 at 4:34 pm

            I really appreciate everyone’s comments here. It is apparent to me that Mark’s words carry a lot of wisdom and they have touched an inner cord in everyone. I personally am not sure what is going on and what exactly I need to do. There is a very strong vague feeling in me that this is something extremely important but I cannot say that I have any answers. Maybe it is not even about having any answers but about assessing where we as individuals are at this moment and do what we can as best as we can. Just do something even though we might not feel like doing it.

            What I feel is this urgency to do something inside of me, raise the level of my consciousness so that hopefully I become more responsible and less prone to betraying or ignoring the light when it is fading away and needs my help.

            At the same time help in whatever ways I can, whatever sparks of light I can see in the world. Whatever efforts there are to promote or defend it. Maybe this activity accompanied with prayer will get me somewhere.

          • Chris February 13, 2015 at 6:01 pm

            Thank you Mark for this video and the insights you offer in the comments above, and thank you everybody for contributing as well. Its really helpful to read and ponder upon those issues that are so important.

            I am sorry to hear that “The Peace of the Spirit Within” is left unpublished. I was – and still am – looking forward to see it published, as i feel it provides the basics, for someone to understand and experience self-observation and start off with self-discovery.

            @Jenny & Vida : I guess that what you call “superhuman” efforts are build little by little, brick by brick, maybe doing a step every time -however small- to the right direction. Maybe setting some smaller goals and making them work can give some of this positive push we sometimes need to get going?

            @ Jordan : I agree that the search for the “imprisoned” light must go two-ways, i wish i all gain strength and understanding on how to do this, as it seems that we are fighting entropy again, as individuals and as a group, & society…

            I guess its so much more difficult to fight entropy when you feel that everything around us is going downwards… But then, is there anything better to do, while we are around? 🙂 So i do wish everyone of us can “use this opportunity to make a difference” as Mark points out, and i really do hope you do start teaching again fully Mark, and that all of us find the best ways to help free the Light everywhere. Thank you once more.

          • Karim February 15, 2015 at 3:50 pm

            Yeah, it’s been great having been given this message. It has certainly invigorated me with a seriousness.
            And it has been great to try to understand it by investigating it in myself and by seeing it in the world.
            It’s also been wonderful seeing everyone here also trying to get to the root meaning of what is said. Reading what other people have understood has been helpful in my own investigation and has helped make things clearer.
            In multiple instances certain insights or discoveries led me back again to the original message Mark wrote here, there’s obviously a great depth to his words.

            Just after reading these messages I went through my daily life, the everyday world, trying to see ‘Where is the light?’ I asked myself is there any light in the world? But I couldn’t really see it around.
            And a few nights ago I was very much in the middle of a situation where I was confronted with the way things are now, the darkness of people, the scale of it. And I could see how a world where there is no chance of a spiritual awakening, a world where there is no light really is pointless. Like has been said; (paraphrased) a world where awakening for people is not possible doesn’t serve a higher purpose. Being in the middle of it, it was quite a shock.

            Therefore I think it’s paramount for there to be light, a hope. I do feel that for us, who know about these teachings there’s a great responsibility to take our inner efforts towards the level needed (and the same for our activities to help others in the world) in which we are worthy to receive the light, and can pass it on so it can spread. So that this whole school, this whole system will start flowing and working.

            Even if it feels too difficult to do. It is when seeing humanity, and the darkness, remembering loved ones, that it compels me to be responsible to do my best whether I like it or not and that it’s something worth sacrificing my ego’s and weaknesses for.

      • Michelle February 14, 2015 at 2:27 am - Reply

        Thanks Mark.

    • Steve February 12, 2015 at 4:13 pm - Reply

      With the help of this thread and community I think I’m starting to see the point of this thread in a different light, initially I was thinking that the issue about Plagiarism was the main point and although it may have a part in imprisoning the teachings in certain ways there are other ways the light can be imprisoned and I feel that through my lack of understanding I missed the point Mark was making,

      Mark made a quote;

      “When the light is contained within the walls of a prison, no one sees, even if they have made themselves eyes. And when the light does not shine, everything in the world withers and dies”

      “Without a source, no one drinks water, and those who are thirsty can never quench their thirst”

      I’ve noticed that I’ve had trouble with working on being aware lately, feeling really weak, the normal efforts to try to be aware has somehow dissipated and even a resigned feeling of I can’t do this has been creeping in and when talking to people they’ve had similar experiences and this lead to reflecting on the quote above and I wonder if that’s what is happening here, that because the light is imprisoned or not being able to shine this affects peoples inner strength in a way that is hard to describe as I’m at a loss as to why this lack of strength, ability, drive, enthusiasm (call it what you will) has crept in as I was working on building the strength of awareness and all of a sudden I just couldn’t quite crab the awareness or the effort to try to get to awareness, things seemed really mundane and I thought that may be I’ve really lost it as far as awareness goes but as part of the quote says ” And when the light does not shine, everything in the world withers and dies” maybe that’s what’s happening to me spiritually as I do feel that my efforts are just withering and slowly dying! This is just showing me that this is really not just a physical thing going on here, you know websites, books, etc etc but there is really a spiritual connection that I didn’t understand until it was gone.

      Wow I can’t thank everyone so much for this thread and the understanding that has come from sharing on this topic, I think I know now more deeply what needs to be done to help set free the light from the prison, I feel that I need to support the light more than ever as with out it I’m just not able to make the effort needed, I feel like I have nothing without it except the horrible sound and actions of the egos within.

      • Lucia February 13, 2015 at 11:08 am - Reply

        Thank you Steve, I feel exactly the same and am sure many of us do. I was also trying to understand what does it mean that the Light is imprisoned, and was even speculating if this doesn’t also have something to do with Mark’s inner work and the stage he is currently in on the Path. But those are just speculations of course.

        In any case, if I should give a point where I started to feel a lack of this spiritual strength, it was probably somewhere around 2008.
        Still, I believe that even despite all these aspects, the Work can still be done and the right efforts made, especially in understanding of what exactly needs to be changed in our inner approach. Just trying the practices for their own sake does not seem like a long-term solution to me, even though they can help us to see things more clearly in the first place.

        Lack of personal sacrifice Belsebuub mentioned elsewhere resonates a lot with me, especially in its inner meaning, trying to find out what exactly this may mean on a deeper level. Theoretically, we know we have to sacrifice lower states for the higher virtues to appear, but I feel this is not going to work properly without the right inner attitude and understanding.

      • Olga February 14, 2015 at 5:37 am - Reply

        Thanks for honestly opening up Steve. I also feel similarly in that when I first read Mark’s comment, the meaning of the light trapped within a prison echoed as loud as thunder upon my own tragic prison and my weak attempts of breaking down the bars. I felt this meaning pulsating within me. Perhaps its a bit different for each of us, as the words of light guide us and touch us each uniquely, where we need to be hit most, while perhaps also hitting a universal chord of required action so that the inner law may match the outer law.

        At the same time, I also believe that each of us starts and moves from the point where we are, from our own understanding and capacity. So this message may in fact guide us from different perspectives and unite us through a common external goal.

        I truly wish we can be guided by all the forces of light as we work hard to get to the bottom and understand the situation deeper, both on personal and external levels.

        • Vida February 14, 2015 at 7:29 pm - Reply

          “Perhaps its a bit different for each of us, as the words of light guide us and touch us each uniquely, where we need to be hit most, while perhaps also hitting a universal chord of required action so that the inner law may match the outer law.”

          Olga, in your recent comments you really captured what I have been feeling and reflecting on in the past few days as well. I initially had many different feelings and thoughts about what all of this was about, and I think for me, Mark’s comments and the many reflections here highlighted my personal challenges/obstacles with the internal work and with supporting the light externally as well.

          It has really shown me how pushing for more direct experience with the spiritual work is needed so that when these opportunities to learn come about I can really take advantage of them. I think G summed it up well saying this “It has inspired me deeply to gain a direct understanding of this and to strengthen my capacity to find answers directly, using those techniques that Mark taught us.”

          I’m very grateful for this thread, and reading everyone’s reflections/insights. Thanks Jenny for starting the conversation and thanks Mark for your meaningful comments.

      • Steve February 15, 2015 at 2:24 am - Reply

        Hi Guys,

        I thinks G’s latest post has some really good advice on how to get to the bottom of this situation as direct experience gained from the astral would no doubt give people the answer that they are searching for!

        Imagine if we turned all this on it’s head by gaining the direct experiences needed to answer this question for our self’s, this would be amazing thing to do because;

        a) we would get the answer to the question
        b) we would know know the cause of the problems
        c) we would know 100% what to do about it
        d) it would be us gaining direct knowledge

        Win, Win, situation if can pull it off as the light wins and darkness is overcome!
        This is what’s it all about so let see if we can take the next step and get direct experience of this situation and then imagine the posts that could be written.


        • Olga February 16, 2015 at 1:35 am - Reply

          I find seeking clarity in dreams and astral experiences extremely helpful too.

          Something I also wanted to share was how the exercise of meditation on an ego has always been extremely helpful to me when I have not understood a situation very well, particularly the stages of analysis and asking to be shown how we would respond differently in difficult situations.

          When I approach this practice with sincerity and prayer, I can be shown an alternative way of behaving, alternative actions and attitudes from my part, and how I would have changed the outcome of things if I had acted with more consciousness and light.

          I find it possible to reflect on my past, search deeply within my passivity or weakness in moments where action may have been needed, and ask to be shown how would it be if I acted with more consciousness.

          These past few days when I close my eyes trying to think back, there are certain things that seem to come up out of the blue, as though unrelated at first, and as I wonder why that is and look into them I start to see the connection they have to my past and an attitude that may have weakened my focus towards the light much earlier on, like certain ego states, reactions and ideas, perhaps a certain distancing I have created upon myself etc.., and I feel these are hints towards the pitfalls I have fallen into as an individual.

          This part of the practice has always been so helpful because it feels like my essence is feeling direct remorse to the wrong kind of actions and showing me a much better direction I could have taken.

          • Zorana February 16, 2015 at 8:37 am

            It feels like I could have written many things in your comment myself, Olga. I’m always pleasantly surprised at the end of a practice like that because it seems that throughout the day I would be frustrated with not being able to understand a certain state or what is at the root of it, while this same frustration is actually keeping me from seeing clearly in the first place. Sometimes even, instead of it driving me to seek truth through meditation and searching by means of consciousness, this feeling builds and feeds more negative states. It is so useless. As Mark has written before—paraphrasing here—that no positive action can come from negative states. So when I am disciplined and willing enough to do the practice as you have mentioned, it can be quite unexpected. More and more things are revealed as a hindrance that I never would have thought of on my own. Things that, even in very subtle and small ways, really prevent the light to grow.

            It can be pretty motivating to see this firsthand and instant benefit of choosing the light, feeding that drive for truth and clarity. It also reminds me of the importance of those ’small’ battles that I tend to brush off. Those are telling. I find that that leads me to unproductive and weak states, when those excuses are justified instead of observed with proper judgment.

            And so often, just as you said, “it feels like my essence is feeling direct remorse to the wrong kind of actions and showing me a much better direction I could have taken.”

          • Steve February 18, 2015 at 3:23 pm

            Helpful advice Olga, thanks for that!

            I’ve always had trouble getting the meditation on an ego practice going, I think I’m being too rigid with it and not letting it flow enough but will keep trying with the asking type of way that you’ve mentioned instead of the waiting to be shown way I’ve tried.


          • Olga February 20, 2015 at 12:59 am

            Hi Steve, yes exactly, this practice cannot work with rigidity, nor can many other things 🙂 I have come to see that there is a certain perfume in this practice that you can tune into and follow, because you are working and praying with the Divine Mother, she wants us to understand and see things, and it really feels as though she is truly happy that we are digging deep into roots of our subconscious, so I always ask for her guidance and know she is part of everything I see and reflect upon. Because she can bring things up and offer several hints of where to look. If I am stuck and cannot understand, I wait patiently and often plea with her about my lack of understanding. I could not do it without her.

            In follow up to Julian’s post higher up, I seem to get several hint and nudges of things I need to look into throughout the day or in quiet times, I can sense a certain understanding evolving from one thing to the next. I am intrigued by certain ego states that are involved in this whole reflection of things and clues to go about things differently. So with that, I do find it helpful to focus in with this meditative practice and seek understanding through prayer.

  20. john p February 6, 2015 at 6:56 pm - Reply

    Great Video Mark, listening to your talks is such a great way to start my day.

    Looking forward to moments of true inner peace.

  21. Karim February 3, 2015 at 4:08 pm - Reply

    “And then a whole life will go by, wasted.”

    This is a really important talk. One thing that struck me and something that I’ve been feeling for the last few days was this kind of frustration of wanting to do my best, having such intentions in prayer, but then actually when the day is over seeing that I have not done what I could’ve. And feeling that this is much more of a waste than I could perhaps know at this time. When considering the eternal and considering the remorse felt at the end of one’s life (as mentioned in this video) it would be too terrible, too terrible to bear. So how to convert this wanting to do it into actual actions?

    I find it very difficult, being so used to psychological sleep which weakens and with the forces of everyday life that are unconducive to awareness against us. But what has worked for me is remembering myself and applying a full effort in that moment, to be as aware as I can, self observe, and apply the elimination for as long as I can, before being snuck up by an ego that takes me into sleep. Then hopefully quickly remember myself again and once again apply that full effort as long as I can. If I do this strong enough it can create its own momentum where I do get taken away by the ego’s but I very quickly come back to awareness as the internal frequency or the direction of the force is towards it.

    It’s better when things internally are going properly because we have the benefits of peace and feelings of the consciousness to support us and can progress in learning. But always being in that in-between limbo is more difficult, very unpleasant and there’s a lot less elimination and learning.

    Thank you very much for this video.

    • Ella February 4, 2015 at 7:13 am - Reply

      I can relate to the desperation when you realise how much time is flitted away Karim, without memory of this work. Sometimes it saddens me and motivates me when I see how much time I have wasted in these ten years or so of being fortunate enough to have found this teaching. For me, a retrospection at the end of the day helps a lot, and a morning spent trying to get focused and ‘armed’ for the day.

      This really is a powerful talk, many things resonated with me and again it has helped me to see the gaps in my work, and lit a spark of motivation to correct them. Thank-you so much. I feel armed and ready to ‘start again’, again!

  22. Zorana February 2, 2015 at 9:00 pm - Reply

    That part on self-deception I found very helpful. And also alarming how often pride or even just laziness, if not fought through, can deprive us of feeling the truly spiritual. Thank you for this talk.

  23. Maria February 2, 2015 at 1:04 pm - Reply

    Thank you Mark deeply for uploading and sharing this remarkable talk at this time!

    Some parts just stayed in me afterwards, shaking me and giving me the yearning to reflect and try to get up, as for example:

    -the importance of learning how to observe the egos in us properly, and that only the effort will allow us to learn and the importance to know if I really want to remove them.

    -how huge and tricky our self-deceit is, it’s consequences, how it underlies the details of my actions in my day, colours what I perceive, keeping me in my small illusory world, preventing me of being able to see and understand.

    -the need to sacrifice and die to the egos to strengthen and how you highlight the unique value opportunity of life, the need not to waste it.

    -how you describe that in the end I will turn back looking at the opportunities I have throwing away. That touches me so deeply.

    -the reality of how ruff life is, how easy and fast we get tricked by the egos just by a little rain, the need to keep trying and not giving up or escaping if we want to get released from this continues miserable circle of pleasure and pain

    -the need of having a goal, the understanding of what we are trying to get to and this is stillness, where the egos are absent, even if it is for a moment. Even though I have experienced this only very rarely and momentarily, it’s my healing spot which my heart searches for, triggering me to try to go on.

    I can feel my lack of understanding on these important issues and are a great and inspiring material to study.

    Thank you deeply for this continues strong guidance and support.

  24. Vadim February 2, 2015 at 1:36 am - Reply

    Thank you very much Mark for this video – it came to me in the right time…

  25. Vida February 1, 2015 at 11:09 pm - Reply

    Amazing. I really needed to see that video at the moment. A lot to reflect on and do.

    Thank you for posting it!

  26. Christos February 1, 2015 at 10:51 pm - Reply

    I really like this talk. Very insightful and helpful for the work on the death of the egos. Thanks Belsebuub.

  27. Olga February 1, 2015 at 8:18 pm - Reply

    I still remember being the anxious girl sitting on the couch listening to this talk and going on the walks to explore peace and star gaze in the night. I remember being all together one evening and seeing this unbelievable sunset and the feeling of touching something sacred but incomprehensible. I remember thinking to myself I need to absorb this like a sponge but also not ‘really’ understanding as much as I wanted. Now that over ten years have passed, I had the opportunities to practice more on my own and with others, and scratch more of a psychological work on myself than I had then. Back then I remember being burdened by so many egos, so many heavy states, especially fear, so many challenges that I could barely taste the essence.

    But this work is really remarkable and that taste of the essence has visited me more. Through more practice I could understand more how to work on myself and that has been the biggest strength. I watch this video today, and still can see I don’t understand everything and need to work even much more, applying a true sacrifice and ending all self-deception.

    Thank you Mark for lifting the veil on this incredible teaching.

  28. Jiri February 1, 2015 at 5:54 pm - Reply

    Thank you Belsebuub for releasing those videos, it really helps.

  29. Martin February 1, 2015 at 8:47 am - Reply

    Thank you

  30. Daniel L February 1, 2015 at 6:28 am - Reply

    So great to be able to see these talks. Amazing how after having a day of not very good self-observation, watching this compels me to look within. It also highlighted something I was doing with regards to music playing in my head. And also timely reminder of what we are trying to get to when self-observing and applying the death. Something I tend to forget a bit.

  31. Jordan February 1, 2015 at 4:32 am - Reply

    That was a great talk; thanks for uploading. Lots of impactful and important stuff in there, but just watching it now, I particularly liked hearing the looking back and remembering the opportunity part and the “chattering up the mountain” bit. The former because that just really helps put things in perspective on a big picture level, and the latter because it’s so easy for days to waste away with that going on.

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