The life beyond: where we go to every night when we sleep


There are different kinds of goals,
They could be upon living an ordinary life, or enlightenment.
To set our sights on the spiritual rather than the material
Requires faculties beyond the five senses.
To set our goal as the spiritual, requires an awakening of those faculties,
Then we can see beyond the physical world,
Then our experience of life is not just limited to this three dimensional existence.

If someone has a clear out-of-body experience for the first time
They face a different kind of reality.
It’s a new experience of living.
Unless it’s clouded by the subconscious, it’s a real experience
And that experience is part of our life and who we are.
We go into the life beyond this one every night when we sleep,
We come into this world and body from there
And we go back there and return there every night.
So which is real, there, or here, or both?
This is temporary and is within time.
From a talk by Belsebuub in a park in the San Francisco Bay Area in April 2009.

By |2018-06-30T12:57:32+00:00July 7th, 2016|astral projection and dreams, video|9 Comments

About the Author:

Lara Atwood is a researcher and practitioner of the native, indigenous Indo-European religion of her ancient ancestors, which is a branch of the ancient Religion of the Sun. She runs the YouTube channel SakroSawel and the website ("sakro sawel" means "sacred sun" in Proto-Indo European). Writing alongside her husband Mark, she helped co-author the book The Path of the Spiritual Sun.


  1. Tina July 29, 2016 at 3:12 pm - Reply

    I need to be more aware of the fact that we are “from there” coming here to the physical and “going there every night”. Thank you very much Belsebuub for this reminder and this talk.

  2. Aleksandr July 18, 2016 at 4:32 am - Reply

    Thank you for clarifying what needs to be done to set spiritual goals.

    I know that very often goals are set based on what is wanted or wished for. However, it is a much weaker place to come from and much less likely that these goals will actually lead anywhere. Regardless, I am very grateful for Belsebuub to have shown the path to ordinary eyes and for having given the chance to those who do not have the faculties beyond the material to find the first steps to spiritual goals.

  3. Jenny July 10, 2016 at 5:48 am - Reply

    It’s interesting too how if you don’t exercise those faculties they atrophy so easily… and yet they seem much needed to help with the already difficult challenge of remembering where we are, what we are, why we are… A good reminder on how beneficial various exercises can be in helping with supplementing that sense of perspective and perception in life.

  4. Lili July 10, 2016 at 1:55 am - Reply

    I like the part that we’re from the other side coming into the physical and return there every night. Sad that not too many people know about this and since they only remember the physical things, they don’t even believe the other side existed and don’t even want to hear about it. If you talk about it, they think you’re crazy. Sad that these people don’t even have a chance to experience what it’s like to consciously experience and learn from the other side. Glad for those of us got the chance and hope more people will come across this website. What valuable information. Thank you so much

  5. Karim July 8, 2016 at 10:59 am - Reply

    I find the question interesting: how/what drives someone to pursue the spiritual seriously. Initially. What sustains it more. What can lead that onto making it the sole, the one, goal.

    Asking myself what drives me spiritually now? Some things are:
    – One thing seems to be that something that was already part of me, a yearning within.
    – Being in awareness, connected to reality, gives impetus.
    – Seeing the nastiness within, not wanting to have that inside anymore.
    – The astral dimension, not necessarily particular specific experiences but rather the ‘hand’ of guidance, teaching, that connection through it — motivates a lot.
    – Also memories that come up throughout the day, of both good and bad things that make me want to do my best more. Also in seeing many other people in the city, people not well off in a certain way, also gives me this urge which I try to direct towards being more serious in my inner efforts.
    – Perhaps also a sense of duty, according to what I know, all the help I receive, realising the precious opportunity that I have, I feel I cannot let it just go by and need to act very focussed/consistently, now.
    – Hints of higher states, either in astral experiences or sometimes during daily life.
    – And other things as well actually.

    But above all it’s a sort of combination of all these things, something I feel inside, which makes me want to make efforts, which in turn have their results of opening me up to receiving more forces that help that work.

    So what seems important to me is to go in that direction more and more, growing in consciousness, yearning, understanding, alignment etc. in order to also receive more help. For myself at times this does get ‘rolling’, at other times this is most certainly not as solid as I would wish it to be.

    “To set our sights on the spiritual rather than the material
    Requires faculties beyond the five senses.”

    It would seem to me that completely awakening those faculties makes what someone should be doing, and want to do, even so much more focussed and determined.
    I think it would also make someone much more capable of perceiving the right thing to do in each moment to serve the spiritual in any decision and help in this giant flow of learning.

    Thank you Lara for posting this and Belsebuub for giving this talk!

  6. Lucia July 7, 2016 at 12:26 pm - Reply

    Beautiful recording, with those birds chirping, giving it an “astral flavour” 🙂 Thank you for this reminder of the realness of the higher realities.

    • Karim July 8, 2016 at 11:09 am - Reply

      I agree, I could just close my eyes and find myself in a nice park somewhere. I wonder what those birds were saying. 🙂

  7. john p July 7, 2016 at 10:51 am - Reply

    It’s taking me quite some time to understand that a clear out of body experiences needs a lot discipline and I must work harder in my daily life to change into a better person.

    Thanks belsebuub for all the hard work that you do for us.

  8. Vadim July 7, 2016 at 3:03 am - Reply

    Wow, another interesting talk! 🙂 So true that setting spiritual goals requires the capacity to perceive the spiritual beyond the material constraints.

    Thank You.

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